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DerNebel on 21 September 2015
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D-Joe said:
DerNebel said:

If that is the only thing you can muster as a reply then don't reply at all.

bolded: Believe me, you will have these now and again, it always happens with theese PR statements

1. Prove to me that the demo isn't counted, a google search shows me that the demo for Horizon 2 also has online and it could thus be assumed that demo players would also be represented on the leaderboards, I'm not saying that's 100% the case but if you're saying it isn't then prove it.

2. You did not talk about my second point at all.  And even if you did, what does it matter? It doesn't change the fact that the point is simply true, there are tons of ways to get on these leaderboards without having to actually buy the game.

And stop crying about "people keeping up the hate" and start blaming MS for making bullshit PR statements like this. Nobody would be "hating" if they just had the balls to give a sales number or just didn't give a number at all, but instead they have to throw a number at people and it has to be the highest number possible, so they chose this BS.


So where is it?

1.The info already said ONLY Forza 5 and Horizon 2 actual game, why should i trust you over MS that demo counts? not even gaf would doubt this. Also, there is not only ONE leaderboard of the game, there are bunch of different type leaderboard that demo doesn't have.

2.Yes and i already said it, what's the point to repeat?

And it's not bullshit PR, it just PR for Forza 6 release, the news release at Forza 6 release date, how is this a problem? oh yeah, becuase it's a news of Xbox exclusive so it's a problem.

bolded: Here you have one of them:

http://www.icxm.net/x/forza-series-xbox-7-mil.html

1. No, what the info said was between Forza 5 and Horizon 2, there was absolutely no confirmation that demo players weren't included. Can you prove to me that demo players are not included in this leaderboard, if you can do that then I'll happily admit that demo players aren't included (cause that effectively doesn't matter anyway, the number is still misleading as all hell)

2. The point is that that is the reason have a problem with this piece of PR which you apparently don't want to see.

Also if you want this to be an discussion stop crying that "this is only a problem because it's Xbox", no it's a problem because it's giving a number designed specifically to make people think the game sold way more than it actually did.