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potato_hamster said:
Soundwave said:


I agree I'd like to see NX be a broader platform that does away with a lot of the basic restrictions of the old hardware model. To be honest I'd like to see the whole "you're stuck with this hardware for the next 5-6 years" thing go away too and become more PC like where you can refresh/upgrade your hardware over time and do away with the entire concept of "generation leaps". 

PC gaming thanks to STEAM is growing whereas consoles are slowing down. They're already kinda dabbling in this by having quasi-upgrades to both the DS and 3DS (DSi and New 3DS), but I think they should just go further with it. NX is the platform and from NX onwards that's it. New hardware models are introduced every 2-3 years, library gets pushed forward. 

Agreed that Nintendo made a mistake in disengaging from Western development in the early 2000s. They lost the Star Wars licensing deal, they lost Rare, they cut ties to Factor 5, Silicon Knights, Left Field, etc. and did not replace them with other Western studios, they lets thing like the Kobe Bryant NBA Courtside and Ken Griffy MLB games fizzle out. Just wasn't a good thing. If 90% of the console audience is in the West, how can you really expect to have success in the West when 98% of your games are made in Japan only?


If consoles become upgradable, and you have multiple specs that developers cannot optimize for you literally lose every major benefit of a console. Your hardware becomes outdated quicker, game compatibility becomes questionable, consoles literally become PCs, just running Sony or MS's version of an OS or steam. Literally what would be the point of a console? To buy a PC that runs games literally just as well as any other PC with the same specs, but doesn't have any of the benefits of running an operating system like Windows, except you might still have to pay to play online, and you might not be able to use a keyboard or mouse to play games?

Seriously, if you want a console that does that - it's called a Steam Machine. You and thee 5 other people who actually think that's a good idea can go buy one. Have you really thought this through? Are you oblvious to the benefits of owning a console over a PC?

I'm looking at things from outside the box, I don't see the point of rabid insistence on doing things the same way they've been done in the past when clearly it's not a formula that works against Nintendo than working for them. 

It's not like the traditional adherence to "console rules" has helped Nintendo any, and the Wii U is not really just a one off problem either, the GameCube had very similar struggles and the Wii succeeded largely on the back of casuals. 

I think probably though they'll just go with something like a 300 GFLOP portable, and using the same chipset family, they'll just scale that up 2-3x for a cheap micro-console (sub-$250).

I think the report of Android apps from Nikkei is largely true too (they have been correct more or less several times in the past with regards to Nintendo). It'll be a Nintendo OS, but it'll be able to run Android apps, sorta like what Blackberry is doing, and Nintendo will collect a small royalty fee if developers want to sell their Android apps through the Nintendo eShop.