Frostbite Dev: The PS3 CELL Retarded The Industry Significantly

[Mr Puggsly]

Eddie_Raja said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Eddie_Raja said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Gears 1 looks dated and should, its from 2006. Gears 2 raised the bar on scale, it was able to push a lot more on screen while maintaining great performance. Gears 3 added a lot more polish.

Killzone games on PS3 look very impressive for the 7th gen, but they don't look a generation ahead. Far Cry 3 and 4 are overall better looking games and open world.

They don't get much attention but the Battlefield 4 and Hardline look pretty good on 7th gen. They impress me more than the Killzone games.

Well like I said those were my friends with 360's.  At its best the PS3 looked half a gen ahead imo.

 Sure FC3 and Battlefield 4 look good for their generation, but they also run at like 20 FPS as they struggle to keep up with next gen consoles 6 and 12 times stronger.

But I do still think Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, and TLoU are the best looking games on PS3 - and they keep 30 FPS.

FC3 and FC4 frame rate struggled on 7th gen (mostly PS3), but they were open world. Hence, a lot more happening than a linear series like Killzone.

Great it was open world, but at any one time you will fight 10 people onscreen at most.  In Killzone there were often 20-30 people.  That is FAR harder to do.

BF4 held solid 30 fps on 7th gen. They also pushed very impressive visuals with large and more detailed enviornments than Killzone 2 or 3.

My friend played the crap out of that game on PS3, and he says if any massive destruction happened the game would litterally freeze or the FPS would crawl for a minute.

Also, lets not forget the Crysis series was around on 7th gen, those were nice looking games that also pushed more technically demanding enviornments than Killzone 2/3. The Killzone games are amongst the most polished looking 7th gen games but they were also linear games.

Crysis 2/3 (Especially 2) were far less impressive than the first 1.  They were eye candy, and looked like garbage on console imo.

TLoU dipped below 30 fps often, sometimes to the lower 20s. Killzone 3 maintained 30 fps quite well. Uncharted 3, another linear game, held 30 fps pretty well. But that doesn't make them a generation ahead, not even half.

That's just how much better they looked to me.  The lighting in TLoU alone puts even most modern games to shame.

If I saw an open world Killzone game, maybe I would agree. But last I checked they were linear. Killzone was designed to be less demanding than games like Farcry, Crysis, and Battlefield.

Your friend is wrong about BF4. I played it on PS3 and it ran surprisingly well. The digital foundry videos show the frame rate dips into the lower 20s during destruction scenes. But so did Uncharted 3. TLoU dipped into the low 20s even when nothing was really happening.

TLoU was a nice looking game on PS3. But the lighting isnt as good as you have exagerated. Either way, it has constant frame dips. Earlier you were boasting it stays at 30 fps. You were flatout wrong.