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Soundwave on 11 September 2015
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Miyamotoo said:
Soundwave said:

It needs to be able to run this level of graphics IMO at minimum:

Now yes, maybe they can cheat a bit by doing things like lowering the resolution to 960x540, but I don't think Nintendo is going to accept even compromises on things like making a 60 fps game 30 fps on the handheld because that alters the game play of the title, and that's a no-no in Nintendo's book. 

So they're going to need some serious grunt under the hood to get to the above. If they can, then yes, they will be able to supply their audience base with the *main* versions of their key IP and that I think is vitally important to Nintendo's business interests. 

You can't make the most expensive Zelda game (which the above almost certainly is) and then sell it to your smallest console base period. 

Vita is a weak chip, Nintendo can do much better than that for fall 2016. In general I think we need to lose this mentality that the handheld is just something Nintendo can kinda throw together at the last minute and it's some subservant to the home console. The reality is looking at Nintendo's actual hardware base, it needs to the other way around (handheld needs to have the most thought put into it and be the lead platform). 

The 3DS right now is the only thing preventing Nintendo from being forced into third-party-dom.

Point is that you dont need exactly same graphic on home console on big screen, and on handheld on 5" screen, it would be basically overkill for handheld.

We already assuming that handheld logicaly will have lower resolution than home console, but it not just about lower resolution, Nintendo will probably scale games for handheld in some other ways because you don't need on 5" screen same textures like you need on TV, or some other assets, effects and details. Those game want be look bad comparison with home console versions of games, but because there are on 5" you probably want see difference. Agree about same FPS, Nintendo will keep same FPS for both devices, Smash Bros. for instance is 60 FPS on 3DS and Wii U.

Resident Evil Revelation for 3DS and Wii U is very good example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4BXd-v095Y

That's why I saying that around Vita power would be enough, and we already know that Nintendo will aim for affordable price.

 

This all assuming that NX is home and handheld consoles, but if its some kind of hybrid of one device, they will need to go for much stronger hardware and form factor will be very different than usual handheld and maybe we will have samo dock or addon.

 

Even if 3DS is doing bad like Wii U their will not be forced to go third-party because they have billions in their war chests, they would simply just try with new generation, same like they doing now.


Nintendo can get much better than the Vita chip even for cheap by fall 2016. 

I don't know why some Nintendo fans have this idea that the Vita chip is something special, lol, I saw an Acer tablet last week that has the same GPU as the Vita, more RAM, a bigger battery, and bigger/higher resolution display for $109 retail. Mobile tech is improving massively these days. 

The portable NX should be able to run pretty much ALL the major games and certainly all/most of Nintendo's games I would think. That's where most likey 80% of the NX audience is going to be. So it has to be designed to have enough horsepower to be able to run the "big boy" games, the real Zelda, not just a watered down side story. That type of thing.