What would you do if The Force Awakens is worse than the prequels?

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SuaveSocialist said:

generic-user-1 said:

its not a true scotsmen argument...  not every critic has an understanding of star trek, they are happy with a good action movie, but thats not what star trek is about.

 

So critics aren't True Scotsmen.  What of the audience?  Adjusting for inflation, Star Trek 2009 made only slightly more than Motion Picture while Into Darkness performed pretty much equally with Wrath of Khan.  Yet the audience appreciation (the figures I placed on the right) are in line with the critical acclaim.  I suppose the audience aren't True Scotsmen either; Trekkies must not have been arsed to ever go to the theatre.  Do clarify who the True Scotsmen are.  I am a Star Trek fan and I know several Trekkies who hold the new movies in the highest esteem.  I guess we aren't True Scotsmen.

Even Metacritic puts Into Darkness above Wrath of Khan AND First Contact (and 2009 ranks well above them).  The new movies perform consistently better even on IMDB.  All data considered, the new movies are objectively among the best if not the best themselves.  Claiming they are the worst is just absurd, and ignoring the vast majority of opinions to justify your own is illogical.

Considering that the most recurring complaints are that the new movies are too bombastic, Star Wars (which is expected to be an epic space fantasy) is in very capable hands.  Keep chugging the Haterade if it makes you feel better, though.

they are too badly written, THATS the main complain.  we need a bad guy? lets take khan, but well he is not just supersmart,now he is superstrong too.

ohh and his blood cures blood now and lets make carol markus a stupid bimbo with allmost nothing to say and not the bad ass scientist

and we need a HUGE ship for the bad guys because our audience wouldnt understand the fight if we just make one ship damaged or so.

its a well made action movie, but its not a good star trek movie, it lacks the vision of the future star trek stands for, and it uses cliches alot worse than even TOS movies and the forced diversity just sucks, the female characters are just in the movie because they needed more females that do stuff, not in a cool way like dax or janeway, just let them do some stuff and show everyone they are helping too.