What/Who can defeat Wii? GTA IV sales & more Wii???????

[kingofwale]

tuoyo said:

kingofwale said:

macross said:

kingofwale said:
Easy there... You think Rockstar cares about defeating Wii?

*T2 looks up the chats*
GTAIV sold 1.3 million on a console with under 5 million installbase. While MarioKart sold 1.2 million on a console with over 11 million installbase.

You think T2 will say "Oh damnit, we failed"????

Nintendo purposefully held back consoles last week. I don't remember anybody saying last week that PS360 defeated Wii in US.. why should there be a difference this week?

 

I mean hardware, both of the console doesn't sell so well compare to Wii....

Remember what did the PR of both Sony & M$ said, they were preparing for GTA IV... and now what?

They were creating more console, so they should sell more....

They have lower user base, it means that they have more opportunity to be purchased... they should sell more..

T2 shouldn't care it, Sony & M$ should...

You know what, I really think that people grap a Wii when they bought GTA IV, look at the attachment rate of SMG and SSBB.......

When are we going to stop judging Wii's hardware sales as if it's some kind of consumer buying trend? I remember last week it was at 69K in NA and behind BOTH PS3 and 360, I don't remember anybody saying it was doomed? Wii will sell, at that price-point, almost as many as they can ship. The fact Nintendo shipped that many is no coincident. They wanted to push Mario Kart Wii, sell hardware AND kill off hypes of GTAIV.

 

So far.. they are only 1/3.

Mario Kart got WHIPPED by both GTAIV versions. (lost)
Wii sold as many as they can ship (won)
GTAIV hype is bigger than ever (lost)

 

Next week, you will probably see Wii back to their bi-monthly low, while PS360 will be around over 100K again.

 

Disagree with you completely on these two "losses".

Mario Kart could hardly be said to have been whipped by GTAIV. In the week GTAIV got released Mario Kart sold 1.2million in the US. In any week that is an incredible amount of sales. In GTAIV week that it an outstanding result. It even almost outsold GTAIV PS3 and this is the biggest game PS3 will ever see (until GTAV but that will be so late in the console war as to be irrelevant). Bear in mind that Mario Kart Wii will have amazing legs (MK DS is still coming up in top ten 2 years after release). Nintendo never intended or expected that Mario Kart should outsell either version of GTAIV in week of release. They just wanted to show they could get huge sales on one of their big games even with the huge hype that it GTAIV. (Huge Win)

Nintendo also never intended or expected to take away GTAIV hype. That is just impossible. Remember 360 outsold Wii in US the month Halo 3 was released and Nintendo still considered it a victory for them. They released Mario Kart and shipped huge amounts of Wiis last week to show that even with the biggest HD game ever it could still outsell its competition in the Americas and no amount of HD hype could take away hype from Wii. Not only did it outsell them it even outsold them combined. (Absolutely resounding, massive Win)

 Mario Kart series to Nintendo is what GTA series to Sony. Yes, Mario Kart at 1.2 is GREAT, but Nintendo chose the week of GTAIV to go on a direct competition with them, and in that aspect, it failed miserably.

Also, coming third to PS3 with only 4 million + installbase. and attachment of 28% in first week. THAT is huge. Something Mario Kart's 10% attachment ratio couldn't match.

 

Sure, you can twist it any way you want and still call it victory. But the truth is. Nintendo wanted to go against the best of the best by pushing Mario Kart out on the same week, that did not payoff.  They are MUCH better off releasing the game 2 weeks from now and get all the hype they want in the media. All I'm hearing right now on the news is "GTAIV this, GTAIV that"... and somewhere in there "Wiifit"