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DivinePaladin said:
Toxy said:
The prequel trilogy was terrible due to all the plot holes and contradictions that were made.
In the original trilogy when Luke Skywalker is in a memorable conversation with Princess Leia, the exchange goes as follows:

Luke: Leia, do you remember your mother, your real mother?

Leia: Just a little bit. She died when I was very young.

Luke: What do you remember?

Leia: Just images really, feelings.

Luke: Tell me.

Leia: She was, very beautiful, kind, but sad. Why are you asking me this?

Yet in the prequel trilogy their mother dies giving birth to them. It would be impossible for either child to have any memories of her. This is not the only flaw that was created by the prequel trilogy, the list goes on and on.

If episode VII ignores the prequel trilogy and stays true to the original trilogy I will have no problems whatsoever. Even if it causes contradictions with the prequel trilogy, as long as it stays to the original it does not matter. The prequel trilogy should be buried.

I am glad that episode VII will have more practical effects. The prequel trilogy had too much forced CGI. Also the lack of space battles in the prequel trilogy really grinded my gears. Especially when Obi-Wan Kenobi tells Luke in the original trilogy that Luke's dad was the best pilot in the galaxy, yet the prequel trilogy barely elaborated on this. It was such a missed opportunity, especially seeing as the space battles would have been one of the few instances that would have warranted the use of CGI, however this was barely tapped into.

I am optimistic towards the new movie. J.J Abrams seems to know what he is doing.

Luke and Leia both have strong connections to the Force. With the Force always having been a plot convenience that can fill holes, since V, it's a safe assumption that anyone can make that Leia has false memories because of the Force being strong within her. Not to mention, you quoted a very vague statement not unlike something people experience in real life, be it an out of body experience or, y'know, just a damn dream.

 

Yes, there are flaws with the prequel trilogy, but the entire series has honestly never been good from any sort of literary perspective. Original Trilogy fanatics love to go and point out how bad the Prequels are using flimsy evidence, and then as soon as a problem is thrown into the OT, they go and quote the EU to justify it as if a prequel section of the EU doesn't exist and explain, say, Obi Wan's experiences with Anakin as a pilot during the twelve years or so we don't see in between I and II or the couple years between II and III. Not saying you personally, mind you, I'm just stating something about the fans in general. 

 

The Star Wars series, coming from somebody who loves it, is a bad series. There's a lot wrong with every single facet of every single episode. The only true difference between the original and prequel trilogies is that the Prequels are quite a bit angstier at times, but even then Luke has his moments. Also, Jar Jar. That was entirely unneeded, but at least Lucas lampshaded how bad he was by making him directly responsible for the Empire rising.

 

TL;DR Thirty years of idolizing one half of something only to get a second half that's not perfect is always going to lead to this sort of hatred we always see for the Prequels. It's no different than old timers saying "my music in my day was better than this wub wub shit!" 

I would like to clarify that I am not even 30 years old yet, let alone 25. I grew up with the prequel trilogy yet I can see its flaws without nostalgia googles.

I understand where you are coming from when you state that Leia could have seen Padme due to the force in the family allowing some sort of out of body experience, however, how come Luke has no memory when the force is just as strong with him (if not stronger)?
It just comes across as an apologetic explanation created by fans to legitimise the prequel trilogy. I can uderstand why people would defend it if it was something they enjoyed, but stating Leia has memories due to an out of body experience is not canon. That is just a fan theory at best. There is nothing within any of the film canon that confirms this.

I enjoyed the fact that we got to see different locales within the prequel trilogy don't get me wrong, I just believe that these locales should have implemented more practical effects. It certainly would have aged better.


Another note to add to my dislike of the prequel trilogy was the terrible plot handling of Anakin's turn to the darkside. This could have been handled so much better. Say what you want about Attack of the Clones, at least Anakin slaughtering the Tusken Raiders due to his mother's death had some sort of insight into his turn into the darkside. The Revenge of the Sith on the other hand... oh was it bad. The action sequences were excellent. Anakin's turn was terrible.
He just became so incredibly gullible. The sith deceived Anakin to betray the order, which made a little bit of sense due to Anakin being upset and being misled into believing that they conspires against the sith which at the time was Anakin's trusted friend. 
However, how the sith convinced him to kill a bunch of children to gain power to prevent death (resurrection is even implied) is beyond me.

Anakin follows his orders because he is worried that Padme is going to die. Padme confronts him and than he thinks she is conspiring against him with Obi-Wan. So he chokes her and attempts to kill Obi-Wan. WHAT. 
The whole point of him doing these deeds was so he would protect Padme, yet he just chokes her anyway due to an arbritary climax. It was completely out of character and was only implemented because clearly George Lucas could not think of any thing better.

If Obi-Wan had of hid Padme from Anakin (due to seeing the recordings of Anaking killing children), this could have been used to much better effect. The sith could have convinced Anakin that the Jedi have kidnapped his wife, and emphasise on the Jedi's conspiring against him. This would lead Anakin to hunt down the remainding Jedi, engage in battle with Obi-Wan etc.
Padme would still be alive, so Leia could have actually seen her. And Obi-Wan could have seperated Luke and Leia at birth as he does in the film (explaining why Luke has no memory of Padme). 

...and yes I agree with you. Jar Jar Binks was completely unnecessary. I hope we see his corpse in the next film as his fate has never been revealed.

Oh and they should never have explained the Force as being Mediclorians. Not only was it a silly explanation, it was unnecessary. They should have left the Force as a mystery. Not everything needs to be explained. When you are dealing with magic or spiritual power, it is best left as a mystery in my opinion. It makes it more interesting.