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Soundwave on 04 September 2015
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Miyamotoo said:
Soundwave said:

I don't think so, kids are just as likely to want a Playstation or XBox from my experience as a Nintendo console (probably moreso once they get into junior high school and everything becomes about being "cool"). Casuals are what drove the usual 20 million-ish Nintendo fanbase up to 100 million. 

Remove them, and the Wii U is basically right back to where Nintendo was with the GameCube. 

Same with 3DS, it's back down to where the GBA was more or less. 

This indicates either a hell of a coincidence or Nintendo just lost that audience pretty much. Which isn't a surprise, all those people playing smartphone games didn't just pop out of nowhere. 

Not every parents buy to kids console that kids wants, especially when we are talking about younger kids that parents don't want to play violent games.

Nintendo had 20 million-is Nintendo fan base only with GameCube and that because PS2 was most popular console of all times.

Yes, casual drove Wii to 100m, but parents that buying console to kids were always big part of Nintendo console buyers, even on Wii U.

My point is that with just different and better marketing and name, Wii U would be at least on pair with GC numbers, and with better launch titles and more affordable price, at least on pair with N64 numbers.


Well here's the thing with younger kids. The parent is just fine and dandy buying them the much cheaper 3DS in that case. 3DS has all/most of the Nintendo franchises a kid that young would care about. 

Or unfortunately for Nintendo, these days it's becoming increasingly more and more the cheap Android tablet with free games (take that $40 cartridges) or a hand-me-down iPad. 

By the time the kids really "need" a console they're already in that "I want to play what the older kids are playing" phase and that leads to them really gravitating towards the Sony or Microsoft brands. When I go to a store like a Best Buy, there's just as many kids around the PS4 or XB1 kiosks as there are around the Wii U one. Nintendo does not have any special sway amongst kids.