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Miyamotoo said:
the_dark_lewd said:
This only really applies to the casuals. All hardcore gamers new fully well what it was and what it did. Those who didn't buy it did so because of other reasons (in my opinion, a combination of a lack of gamers in the first year with the fact that the so called "dudebro" market has been claimed by Sony and Microsoft)

This also applies to parents who buying consoles for their kids, and they are much bigger buyers of Nintendo consoles than casuals.

I don't think so, kids are just as likely to want a Playstation or XBox from my experience as a Nintendo console (probably moreso once they get into junior high school and everything becomes about being "cool"). Casuals are what drove the usual 20 million-ish Nintendo fanbase up to 100 million. 

Remove them, and the Wii U is basically right back to where Nintendo was with the GameCube. 

Same with 3DS, it's back down to where the GBA was more or less. 

This indicates either a hell of a coincidence or Nintendo just lost that audience pretty much. Which isn't a surprise, all those people playing smartphone games didn't just pop out of nowhere.