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Dallinor on 05 May 2008
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radioioRobert said:
Dallinor said:
I just don't see the demographic who purchase Pro Evolution Soccer being as interested in the Wii as say the PS3 or 360.

There are also a few disadvantages to the Wii.

1. It doesn't support 4 players. (The importance of this cannot be overstated.)

2. It has a new control scheme. To the semi casuals who have played football games for the past 10 years on a dualshock controller or the past 6 years on a Xbox controller, are better reviews really going to be enough to entice them to change platform?

A large section of the Pro Evolution fanbase have already purchased a next gen console, at this late stage it's my belief that the Wii can only hope to rope in gamers still using their PS2.

3. If internet forums are anything to go by, Graphics do seem to be an issue for football gamers.

In my personal experience as a European, I could definetly see Pro Evo sales for the Wii increasing (PS2 gamers upgrade to a Wii, people watching reviews closely change platform for the next installment) but as for it becoming the standard console for football gaming?

Not a chance.

1. Wanna make a bet that 2009 supports 4 players?

2. That's WHY it's great! It is the "evolution" of footie and perhaps football controls. Sure some will cling to the past, some always do.

3. Internet forums are only a small percentage of gamers. And you said most footie player were casual, you think they scour the net to check graphics vs gameplay forums? I'm sure casual gamers do just that.... 

Not a chance? You sound like every analyst that said in October of '06 that the Wii would never account for more than 15% of the gaming market.  


I'm sure the 09' version will be better than the 08 version, and may of course support up to 4 players. I was disussing the differences between the current versions.

You are arguing that the Wii version will become the best selling version in Europe.

Lets take a look at what it needs to do to acheive that feat.

Breakdown of current Pro Evolution Soccer 08' percentage sales in the EU:

Overall: 4.77 million

PS2: 49%

PS3: 26%

360: 19%

Wii: 6%

Things worth noting: 1. Wii sales of Pro Evolution could double by the end of the games lifetime 2. Despite having the lowest EU install base of current generation consoles the PS3 version of Pro Evolution soccer 08' sold the most.

Indicating the continuing trend of strong PES sales on Playstation consoles.

In order for the Wii to be in with a chance of outselling the PS3 version PES 09' it must double (at the very least) the sales of it's predessecor, while the PS3 version must not see an increase in Pro Evolution sales over the previous year.

As for the PS2 version, the Wii must increase it's sales by 8x that of it's predeccesor to be in with a chance of outselling it.

So realistically speaking unless the Wii radically expands the Pro Evolution market, and starts roping in new gamers, it will have to start taking huge amounts of sales from the other consoles.  

It's also worth noting that the Wii version, although launched late, did have the advantage of a strong advertising campaign in the EU. While in comparison the PS3 and 360 versions recieved little to no advertising- perhaps because it was almost a given that they would sell well.