Immersion vs. Interaction: conflicting gamer tastes

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Grey Acumen said:
Million, you seem to be very adamant about the idea that if you have to perform a physical action, it will make you think more about what you are doing when compared to pressing a button.

The closest thing I can figure out is that you either don't remember the first time you used a controller, or you are somewhat physically uncoordinated. I'm seriously not trying to be insulting, so just listen to this from my perspective here.

When I'm playing boxing or tennis or bowling, or even baseball and golf, yes, I have to think about what I'm doing, but if I were to ACTUALLY go boxing or bowling or play a game of tennis or golf, I'd have to think about what I was doing the SAME WAY.
The only thing I can get is that you've been playing games long enough to the point that you don't remember the difficulty in learning a control style that is completely different than anything you've used before.

I mean, swinging wiimote = swinging sword. Aiming wiimote = aiming gun. How is it that these actions need to be thought about to the point that they would make you lose immersion? You've been swinging around a tennis racket or a sword for 2 hours, and now you're tired. this breaks immersion because you're tired? it's BECAUSE I'm tired that I feel immersed! I've been swinging a freaking sword around for two hours!
I'M the one doing it I'M the one getting tired, hence I'M the one that is in the game. If I WASN'T tired, THAT would clue me in to the idea that I'm not actually in the game, but instead merely controlling some robotic lifeform in a little box in front of me.

Exactly.

@Million: You won't get more immersion in anything that's not real life. By your definition Wii is not immersive at all, that only goes to the HD consoles, well, I can say the same go do the things you do in the game in real life, then you'll get immersion.

This is like the battle between Oot and GTA4, no one will win. I've had much more "immersion" in games like SMW, ALttP, MP3 than in games like Gears of War. It's all about the one whos playing and his preferences. On the other hand wi offers far more interaction than the other consoles.

Interaction means immersion just like grey acumen just said. The more the similitudes the gameplay has with the real actions, the more immerse you will get.