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NoGenlefBhind said:
sundin, you can keep trying to tell me different, but both you and ACE have either conventional, religious held beliefs or spiritually held beliefs that color your opinion on the death penalty. You know it, he knows it, and I know it.
You both think we, as individuals, have a soul.
Both of you do.
Did you take the time to read my post about Shasta Groene?
You believe that man should be kept alive??

you know what, better still.. don't.
this is all rather pointless.
we disagree and none of us are actually 'right'
far too often people treat message boards as a 'mental weight room' where no one wants to admit what exercises they can't do.
both you guys take care. enjoy the games.


In the post that you used "proving" Ace was spiritual he outwardly demonstrated that he disagrees with the concept of a soul.

As for my religious beliefs, as I have stated, they play no part whatsoever in my arguments and overall, I see them as irrelevant to the discussion. If your only argument centers around a hypothetical religious belief then your argument is weaker than I imagined.

As for your example with the individual, its not so much that "I believe he should be kept alive" but instead "I believe that there is no benefit in killing him". I have stated throughout this thread a whole host of reasons why I am opposed to the death penalty and of course, they still apply here.

fatslob-:O said:

I'm all for the death sentence ...

People will understand my point of view when you see that a good portion of the criminals are repeat offenders ...

I want tighter leaches for wrongdoers ...


From the data I have seen, even without an intrinsic focus on rehabilitation, the recidivism rate of murderers is around 0.81%