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mornelithe on 11 July 2015
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Normchacho said:
mornelithe said:

1. Did you mean to say he's nto trying to kill him, because Superman's not trying to kill him?  Otherwise the sentence is a head scratcher :D

2.  No, Kryptonite isn't, however, Superman does lose his powers when subjected to Krypton's atmosphere (in Zod's ship).  Superman's not an idiot, plus he had at least some time absorbing knowledge from his father.   So, is it unreasonable to suggest that Superman wouldn't be wary of all things Krypton?

3. Exactly, end the fight before it begins, let everyone know who Batman is...he'll be too busy dealing with his enemies and the press to pursue Superman.


1. Sorry, let me fix that. What I meant to say was that Batmans motives for trying to kill Superman don't include Superman trying to kill Batman. Batman wants to kill Superman regardless.

2. As I said, he is totally unaware that kryptonite exsists and is on earth at the end of MOS and likely won't be made aware of it until it is used agianst him or until just before it's used against him.

3. Which would could lead to Batman, or the people he is trying to protect with his secret identity, being harmed or killed, which isn't Supermans goal. He also doesn't want Batman to expose him as Clark Kent, since assuming the new movie is anything like pretty much any other Batman-Superman encounter, it should take Batman all of five minutes to figure out who Superman is.

1. Then Superman's reactions should be commensurate to Batman's, ala Zod/Superman.  Except Superman would just have to flick him across the room.

2. It doesn't matter if he's aware that Kryptonite exists, it matters that he knows that there is a connection between his powers and Krypton.  It's as much of a guess to assume he doesn't know anything about Kryptonite, as it is to assume he does.  It'd also be interesting to know where Krypton was, and if it's even possible for fragments of Kryptons explosion to even reach Earth w/in Superman's lifetime (Krypton is 27.1 light years from Earth, the exact position is: J2000 Right Ascension: 12 hours 10 minutes 5.77 seconds Declination: -15 degrees 4 minutes 17.9 seconds Proper Motion: 0.76 arcseconds per year, along 172.94 degrees from due north).  We also know that it took Superman 2-3 years to travel to Earth, from Krypton (which means his vessel had to travel faster than light).  A single light year is roughly 6 trillion miles (9.5 trillion Km), so Krypton would be roughly 162.6 trillion miles.  Exactly how fast are these shards traveling to make it to Earth w/in Superman's lifetime?  Hell, I question whether they'd make it within humanities lifetime.

3. Yeah, but in that regard, Batman's a bad guy.  Superman's dealings with bad people versus good people are quite different.  And it's not like Superman would know nothing about Batman.  He'd know about the tools and the gadgets, and a smart tactician would expect a scientific slant.  So, don't let him get anywhere near you, and incapacitate from a distance.  And if Superman does know who Batman is, getting rid of Wayne manor, and Wayne Tower, and thusly, Wayne's toybox, wouldn't take much effort.

Btw, as ridiculous as this discussion is, it's pretty fun :D