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padib said:
DucksUnlimited said:

Lying? Using selective memory to push an agenda? Take your pick. Not really sure what kind of question that is or how it's in any way relevant to the discussion, but whatever.

And yeah, the PS2 had solid marketing but it's not like Nintendo and Microsoft's marketing were incapable of demonstrating what their consoles were capable of. The Wii U has had that problem, and I suspect that VR headsets will as well, but the GameCube and Xbox were very simple and straightforward products to market. Playstation not yet blundering is also a factor that I brought up in my post, so we're in agreement with that.

@bold. It's a question about the way you post, I'm just saying it doesn't strengthen your point.

Then we agree. All companies do marketing, but some are stronger at marketing than others and some might be in a stronger or weaker position in the industry due to other unrelated decisions.

Pointing out the ludicrous nature of another person's claim doesn't strengthen my argument? Well yeah, that's what the multiple paragraphs above it were for. They're unrelated. At this point your post begs the question: if my criticism of another person's argument hurts my own, than what does criticizing my criticism of him do for your post? I think you need to take your own advice friend.

 

And of course. The idea of some companies having stronger marketing teams than others was never in contention. It was the idea of marketing being the sole or even primary reason for a product's success that I take issue with.