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bonzobanana said:
heavenharp said:

the wii u is "cleanly" more powerfull than ps360. the ports that are inferior are lazy ports.

The gpu is above 500 gflops already.


wii u has lower memory bandwidth and cpu resources. It has more memory but no hdd. The gpu remains a mystery but its most certainly not 500 gflop not even close because its on a 45nm fabrication process and much of the customised gpu has to make room for the original wii gpu and other compatibility area's. When it was analysed before the figure was about 176 gflops as the most likely value but that still is above 360 and PS3 gpu's due to later architecture and more up to date feature set.  The 45nm fabrication process and very low power consumption of the wii u makes it impossible to be 500 gflops as its a complete mismatch.  You do understand the ps3 and 360 consume far more power and are on the same budget fabrication process as wii u?

Lazy port is just a fanboy excuse. There has been many different developers on wii u and they are all getting similar weak results. The only time the wii u can go ahead is if the game requires low cpu resources.  Clearly the only games that perform well on wii u are games programmed from the ground up to work well with it, i.e. don't need such high cpu resources as 360 and PS3 games.  As an owner of all three consoles its clear to see the limitations of the wii u.

Almost all multiformat games that are on wii u, ps3 and 360 perform worse on wii u, often much worse even to the point of unplayable sometimes with horrible low frame rates when the action gets intense in fps games.  

Surely we have reached a point now that we stop pretending the wii u is a competitive console in performance.  To say it performs to the same level as ps3 and 360 is to be honest generous most of the time and this is easily backed up by looking at the hardware and reading reviews of its games.


Yeah agreed. 500 GFLOPS from a 45nm chip that runs at 33 watts is pretty much impossible. Zero lives in fantasy land though where magical Nintendium chips can break the rules of physics.