RadiantDanceMachine said: And no one is surprised by yet another display of utter incompetence. Excellent start to a meaningful discussion. Quoting something verbatim is not the same as quoting out of context. That is yet another misunderstanding on your behalf of what that entails. Quoting out of context necessitates that the meaning of the passage is the antithesis of the quotation. The quotations provided are exactly what is conveyed by the passages (feel free to review them). Actually, its not the antithesis, its just a misrepresentation. Quoting the bible verbatim is a misrepresentation of it ala out of context. QED P1 makes sense in its amended form, which I see you've deliberately ignored. This is a failure of philosophy 101, wherein the argument is taken at its best, not its worst. The only effort I see you've taken is to deliberately strawman the argument from "If the bible says god/lord/jesus hates X" to "If the bible says ANYONE hates X" which is entirely insane (you referenced brothers for some bizarre reason). Please learn to read at least at a novice level. It is easy to ignore something that does not exist, no form of P1 you stated had a premise that started with "god/lord/jesus hates X". Nor can you even make the assertion that you meant it because of your ludicrous word count example. Because the word count counted every occurence of the word "hate" not of the phrases "god hates/lord hates/jesus hates" etc, any phrase which contained it is valid. So you even if you try to dismiss the quotation I gave you as insane. Discounting only invalidates your position even more. I'm glad you're now admitting your arguments are senseless and completely inept; progress is always good. It's funny, when ever I argue with someone on this forum they are always so blind, that they don't realize their own mistakes, but easily bite when I lay out the bait. I am using your own arguments, they follow the same reasoning, In my first reply to you, I told you that this was your own logic. To admit that it is inept, is to admit your own failure, even indirectly. "FYI: I never said God doesn't hate anything, he does hate sin, just not sinners. A distiction that I will admit I didn't make because I assumed that "God hates X" referred to hate groups using it to justify there hatred of other groups of people." And now we see that you are, in fact, a liar. You even took great lengths to update your original post to conceal your lie. This duplicitous nature is commonplace when someone is running for the hills. This was indeed your original quotation: "Thus, if a so called Christian says "God hates X" they are either not a Christian, or at the very least sinning themselves." As everyone can plainly see at this point, this entails that god does not hate anything as anything would violate your contention that "God hates X" is impossible. You say I need to learn to read and yet, you haven't even finished reading the posts you have quoted. Yes I admitted I made the mistake of omission by not clarifying that God hates X refers to people, but I already explain why I assumed it was implied. At least one of us is man enough to admit mistakes and learn from correction. Can you not fathom how going from saying "God hates X" is a sin to God doesn't hate anything is a huge jump in logic? Can you quote where I explicitly say God doesn't hate anything? Even in the original I only say Christian's can't say God Hates X? Even if the implication didn't occur to you? It's time to collect your things, you're finished. Every time I reply to you, you make more and more concessions, and yet I'm the one running for the hills? |
I think the worse thing is that just because I made a mistake, you think your faulty reasoning is right just because of it. No its not, because no matter how much you try to turn this into a pissing contest. The fact of the matter is your argument doesn't make a lick of sense.
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