johnlucas said:
In 10 years time (9 for the PS3), the XBox 360 & PlayStation 3 have sold about 85 million units a piece. 85 million + 85 million = 170 million Add Nintendo's numbers when they have all the support & how hard do you think it will be to get to 240 million? Neither Sony nor Microsoft can sell their platform by themselves. None of their 1st party efforts can hold down their platforms enough. When AAA 3rd Party Console Market crashes, it will take the XBox & PlayStation down with it. But every 3rd Party is not willing to fall into the abyss & they will swallow their pride & began to share their franchises with Nintendo out of necessity. And before you mention PC or Mobile AKA the NEW PC, let me remind you of this. Many of these 3rd parties have already LEFT the PC. That's why they're making console games in the first place. As for mobile, if mobile was the key why aren't they there now? No. Consoles are the stable business. When the bottom falls out, Nintendo will be the last man standing. The Rebellion will take a backseat to Survival because they have mortgages & college funds, & families to feed & fund. Once this equation comes to pass—1st Party + 2nd Party + 3rd Party = Nintendo's Party—Wii U will have those numbers. John Lucas |
The only way all of this nonsense would be any bit possible (and by that I mean about 100 trillion to one) is if the PS4 and Xbox One never existed, but they do. They will not drop off the face of the planet. All PS4 users and Xbox One users aren't going to wake up one day and their consoles refuse to turn on. Those consoles still exist. They will continue to exist no matter what happens to Sony or MS, neither of which have shown any indication that they're ready to drop out of the console market. But even if they did, chances are they wouldn't do so until after this console generation was over. They've already spent the vast chunk of their investment designing, developing and producing these consoles, the maintenance of such is a mere fraction of that. But let's assume they don't like making money and just shut down everything because they just love Nintendo that much. Let's go with that ridiculous assumption.
Okay, so *poof* the whole world has useless PS4s and Xbox Ones! Now let's look at that magical crash. How on earth do you imagine this is going to happen? Exactly how? It would require the likes of EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Square Enix, Konami etc. to all go bankrupt overnight! Last I checked they are all making hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars a year. How on earth are people going flat out stop buying console games for it to actually bankrupt these companies? If AAA games no longer justify their cost these publishers aren't going to keep making them and losing money hand over fist! They will scale back. They will make games that cost less that will make them money. They're not complete idiots. They're not going to print more copies of the game than there are consoles to play them. This crash will never happen! But let's pretend these businesses wake up one day, start hating money, want to piss away all the money they have in the bank, because they love Nintendo just that much they just want to see them thrive off of no competition.
So no PS4, no Xbox One, no EA, not Activision, no Ubsoft, no Square Enix. Gone. Even still, King of Nintendo history, are you forgetting about the NES and the SNES, consoles that HAD all of the third party support? Had being the keyword there because those third parties abandoned Nintendo because the grass was greener on any other side. I have personally worked with Nintendo and they are a nightmare compared to working with Sony and Microsoft. There developer kits are difficult to work with and their developer tools are absymal. It is twice as hard to make something look half as nice on a Nintendo platform. It's awful. That is the main reason third parties abandoned Nintendo, and there is no reason to go back even if they were the only console option. These bankrupted companies are somehow going to come back from the dead, and see the Nintendo light?
"Well gee. We can't seem to sell enough games on a console that has 20+ million in sales to make a profit. Let's not scale back production costs. That's ridiculous. I know! We should just start making games for the console that has less than 10 million in sales!" - No one ever.
They can and absolutely would flock to PCs instead. Most all console games have a running build on PCs anyways (even Nintendo games). Steam Machines would take off instead of the Wii U.
Of course this is all fiction. You keep talking about how the PS3 and X360 are 9 and 10 years old. Let me reiterate once again, ohh King of Nintendo history. The longest period of time Nintendo has gone between releasing a new home console is 7 years. Not 9 years. Not 10 years. 7. When sales are abysmal like Wii U sales, they release tend to release a new console even sooner. A New Nitendo home console will be out *no later* than Fall of 2018. You and I both know that, since trends can never be broken. That's 3 years for the third party console video game publishers to go from collectively making billions to collectively losing billions. I wonder what magical even is going to spark these companies to lose all their business sense and forget to make more than they spend. Ohh right. Nothing.
You talk about how consoles are a stable business in one breath, and talk about how third parties are going to crash in the other. So which is it? Let me guess - Nintendo is the only stable one. Sony and MS are doomed. So by "consoles" you mean "Nintendo consoles". And I know what you mean. Aside from the Wii, the last 3 Nintendo consoles (Wii U, Gamecube, and N64) sold less than 35 million consoles world wide. If you go back even further, aside from the Wii, Nintendo has never had a console sell higher than 61 million. The Wii was the exception, not the rule. That doesn't appear to be too stable to me. Do you know what does sound stable? 80+ million in sales for every single console Sony has ever made. That appears to be a much more stable platform to me. Sony at its worst is better than the average Nintendo console in sales. Again, the Wii was an exception. It is not the rule. Learn some history.
Face it John Lucas. It's not happening. It's never happening, and I'm willing to bet my future on this site on it. Of course you won't even acknowledge such a challenge because you obviously can't possibly believe this nonsense any more than anyone else. Let it go John. You're embarassing yourself.
P.S. If Sony and MS can't sell consoles by themselves, then what exactly is Nintendo doing with the Wii U? Because they're certainly not selling that by themselves very well. Also, Madden and Fifa are available on both iOS and Android.
