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Soundwave on 08 June 2015
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HoloDust said:
Soundwave said:
HoloDust said:


No, I'm not confusing it, I'm mostly reserving 2nd party for studios that are, if independant, in long term exlusive relationship with some platfrom holder - if Nintendo, say, pays Obisidian to make a game for them, I see that as 3rd party exclusive, since Obsidian remains 3rd party. If Nintendo starts ordering games from them, and Obsidian starts making them just for Nintendo I would see them as 2nd party.

And comapring funds needed to make Bayonetta, Wonderful 101 and Devi'ls Third to games like Skyrim and Witcher is..well, bit silly. Cause that's the level of funding we're talking here about.

Wonderful 101 for example wasn't a cheap game to make. Platinum has confirmed this, it cost as much as MGS Rising or any of their other games apparently. Go figure. 

And realistically Nintendo doesn't need to feature match in every way. Splatoon doesn't have every feature every shooter on the market does. But it uses the same basic forumla in a unique way and it works. Splatoon likely doesn't have anywhere near the budget of something like Destiny, but because the genre/play type is popular it's at least finding some success on the market. 

I don't know what 101's budget is - but I really doubt it's comparable to Witcher 3, let alone Skyrim.

And honestly, I'm not sure I quite understand you or have I missread - are we're talking about mainstream appeal here? Cause if we are, no, Splatoon does not have mainstream FPS appeal, that is reserved for CoD and Battlefield, until something else of that sort shows up.

If not, sure they can make great WRPG on much lower budget, hell most, if not all, of my favorite WRPGs come from very modest studios - but honestly, they don't have quite a mainstream appeal.


Splatoon may not be COD, but I don't think that's really the point. 

There will be a Splatoon 2, 3, 4, etc. now because it's successfully launched a new IP. Splatoon is going to sell 4-5x more than Wonderful 101 or Bayonetta 2 and like 100x more than Fatal Frame. 

If they made this game on the original Wii, who knows, it probably would've sold like 5-6 million copies too, it's a shame it's stuck on the Wii U. But I think there is merit in making games in more mainstream genres. 

Splatoon doesn't have the budget of COD, yet it's still having some success where pretty much nothing else Nintendo has made on the Wii U other than Mario/Zelda based games have. 

If nothing else they should invest more in the shooter genre. It's actually a wonder they have largely ignored this genre for the last 15 years when in the first place GoldenEye and Perfect Dark were huge hits for them. Like seriously, this is completely ass backwards thinking. 

Also investing in FPS, but solitary single player FPS like Metroid Prime or Zombi U was a mistake too. GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, and Splatoon have appeal because they are multiplayer competetive games, I don't think Nintendo really understood why GoldenEye was a hit.