Congrats Ireland! First country to recognize Same Sex Marriage by Pop Vote!

[Zappykins]

ganoncrotch said:

Zappykins said:

reggin_bolas said:
As I postulated, Christianity is now dead in the West. The family has been betrayed by people of my generation and younger. The same caucus that voted in Obama in office twice who is now tearing the US apart from within.

A sad day indeed for those who believe in family values and the social order of the universe. But the fight will continue. Praise Allah.

Um what?  Many same sex couples are Christian, and many Christian Churchwa perform and have perform same sex marriages for nearly a centery (at least that I know about - and probably much, much longer.)  I have no doubt that if Jesus were hear today he would give a thumbs up to Ireland.

What? There is not tearing apart of the US from this other than a tiny cruel minorty.  It's getting stronger, although we still have much more reforms and things to improve.  Obama has stopped the USA from near bankrupsy, got Bin Laddin, ended the wars.  Sure we need to do more, but it was uncomfortably close to colapsing there for a while. 

Support for Same Sex Marriage comes from support for Family Values - because a same sex couple can be a familiy and some ever have kids.  Are you saying kids shouldn't be with married parents?

Sorry if the world become a more fair, better and more nurturing place makes you uncomforable.  I hope someday you can see it for the beautiful thing that is love.

They stated here that no priest would be forced to officiate a same sex marriage if they had issues with lgbt couples personally, because I'm sure no couple wants to have the happiest day of their lives marred by the fact that someone saying the words that bind you together for life does not feel comfortable doing so, but the catholic church here in Ireland did not stand against marriage equality as a single minded block, they knew that many priests here had feelings to the contrary and during the campaigns many members of the church were out in favour of a Yes vote for equality, was great to see.

For the record, at least in the states, a priest/reverend/officiant/rabbit/celebrant, etc. can NEVER be forced to perform a ceremony.  Some do not want to marry divorced people.  Other's can skip inter racial - and one recently refused to marry a bride because he didn't like here dress.  No seriously, he refused at the time of the ceremony, because he didn't like here dress.  Plus, would would want someone that doesn't want to be there?

Now, issuing a license is different as that is an official capasity.  It would be like a police officer saying, "I will not arrest Quakers, even if I witness them murder someone, becuase I think all Quakers are devine."

"AHouston pastor refused to marry a couple in his church, because he didn’t find the bride’s dress to be appropriate."

Seriously, the dress story:  http://thegrio.com/2013/08/21/houston-pastor-refuses-to-marry-couple-over-brides-dress/