Mnementh said:
MDMAlliance said:
spemanig said:
No, it's an action adventure game. It's not even a little bit of an RPG. It doesn't even have RPG elements.
And Zelda is not "it's own thing." It's defined by a genre, just like everything else. |
I'm sorry for this, but no. RPG elements you're referring to are just the common thing RPG's have, but not what defines RPG's itself. As one other has already pointed out, RPG stands for Role-Playing Game. Break that down, you see "Role-Playing." I'm sure you know what role and playing mean by themselves, and if one will modify the other what that has to mean. Yes, it means the game has you playing a role. I am sure you realize that this suddenly makes RPG's actually quite a bit more broad, which is why we come up with all these other terms to further narrow it down. Overlapping of genres is inevitable, because they are pretty much simplifications to help identify something. Calling Zelda not its own thing is incorrect, because Zelda was not made to fit an archetypal genre. Many games are actually its own thing.
While you may argue I'm arguing semantics, you were also arguing over these very same semantics.
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As I see that you as many here refer to RPG as the player is steering a character (but not actually deciding about the character), do you really say this is an RPG:
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In a sense, it is. RPG was a genre before video games even existed. The term as a whole is very broad. However, as you may know, not EVERY game actually has you playing a role as a character or something. There are many board games and even video games where you do not play as anyone. Those tend to be puzzle games, though. My point still stands that genres were made up to make it easier to identify entertainment things.
Now, when it comes to practice, the reason certain things will be called an RPG, and others will NOT, is because we came up with another definition for RPG's. However, even within that other definition of RPG's, there are more definitions, and it gets real tricky from there. Spemanig saying things are defined by their genre only shows that he doesn't understand what they are.
So that is an RPG, but also is not. When people debate about Zelda being an RPG, they are defining RPG's differently.
