What's NX for Nintendo?

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Captain_Yuri said:

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Captain_Yuri said:

You don't need to tell me about the Shield cause I watched that press conference live... And none of what you just said countered anything that I stated... None of that is proof of anything because Nintendo will be using a royalty based method in order to make the NX and Nvidia doesn't because they make everything themselves... So I have no idea what the point of that was

I never said its impossible...? Where did you get that? I just said that its needlessly expensive

Waiting for what? They said they will announce it in 2016... The hardware was finalized a while ago if its ready to be shown next year because the developers need to have games ready by launch and creating new engines and stuff takes longer than a year.. Specially if its around the graphics of the wiiU, whether it be weaker or stronger

Apple doesn't release its designs to other companies for them to use it... Apple products are fast and efficient cause only apple knows the designs... They are based on Arm architecture but the SoC itself is completely custom and high secretive... Nintendo won't have the A8x to use in the first place... And even if it does, how would they manage to put 3 of them in that price point and have all the other things as well like the GPU, Ram and etc? And the A8x was released in 2014... The hardware for the NX should have already been finalized either then or before then

I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree here. 

I get what you're saying. You want a super powerful Nintendo wonderconsole that brings back third party support and to have Nintendo razzle dazzle Western developers. I wouldn't mind that either. 

I just don't think realistically that is in the cards. That Nintendo died with the 1990s, but under Iwata they are not that company any longer. When the likes of Howard Lincoln, Minoru Arakawa, Peter Main, and Yamauchi himself retired, the company simply was never the same, people just never really noticed it because they kept making Mario/Zelda/etc. games. 

NX will be a gimmick based console, look at how they're already describing it -- a "new hardware concept" that will introduce "new ways to play". C'mon, we've been down this road with the Wii and Wii U before. 

Nintendo also doesn't really give a f*ck what hardcore gamers on the internet think they should do. They are run by an extremely conservative and old group of Japanese board members -- only their opinion matter. If Miyamoto wants to make a console with a dildo controller, that's what's going to happen, not what you or I feel should happen. 

Wouldn't surprise me actually if that was the price Miyamoto and the other creative types at Nintendo paid for NX ... they get to make NX their way, but the concession they had to make to Nintendo's business brass was to allow the company to make Android/iOS games. So they finally (and probably bitterly) caved on that position. 

My advice -- just enjoy the f**king games. To be honest Mario Kart 8 and Xenoblade look pretty freaking amazing running on a low end console. I have a PS4 and X1 and a decent PC rig and it's not like when I turn on my Wii U I go "holy crap! These graphix are sooo outdated". If Nintendo NX home version is even 2x-3x that, their games will still look great. 

Well, I am not saying it will be a console that is as powerful as a ps5/x2 or anything. I am just saying that why all these fusion ideas are horrible because they are and I gave plenty of reasons why. If Nintendo goes with these "hybrids" or "same games on both with similar specs" route. It will be their demise because it won't go after the wii audience nor will it go after the ps4/x1 audience or even the Nintendo console audience. It will just mainly go after the Nintendo handheld audience

And yes, I agree Nintendo doesn't care and thats exactly they are in this position to begin with and thats exactly why if they go with majority of the fusion ideas, they will exit the console market in the generation after. And thats why my Fusion OS with different hardware and different games is the best idea. It will decrease development time and increase games output while catering to both handheld and console market as well as the third party market. It wont give out games as fast as a single "platform" but it will still output games faster than they are currently

And finally. I do enjoy their games and thats why I am so vocal about it because if they go with most of these ideas... It will be their demise and the last thing I want to see is them going out of the console or handheld market. I have a pretty great gaming PC with 970s and I can play most games on max yet I don't think none of the Nintendo games look bad. I have defended Nintendo game's visuals many times but the thing is, having a console with a lot of power will gamers a new experience because of the visual enhancements because otherwize... We will just get the wiiU experience in terms of graphics once again and I don't want that. I want even higher graphics than the wiiU with bigger worlds and more fap worthy Nintendo art style instead of essentially the samething as the wiiU.

But yea, lets agree to disagree

Maybe Nintendo is preparing for life after dedicated hardware. They certainly are making several moves now to broaden the company past just dedicated hardware. 

I think it's a fair question too as to how much longer dedicated hardware has even for the likes of Sony and MS ... I'm sure there will be a Playstation 5. But Playstation 6? I've always felt ... who knows. By then higher speed mobile might be more common in the US (it already is in Europe and Japan), game streaming services that are just now taking their baby steps may very mature into the future of the business. 

NX may simply be Nintendo saying to Miyamoto and co. "look, we'll give you one shot to try and create some type of new Wii or Pokemon style phenoms that reinvigorate the market, if not, we're already taking steps so that the company can survive and prosper no matter what". 

If it's not as powerful as a PS5/XB2 then what the hell is the point of sweating so much over competing with Sony/MS? Such a console will not sell to the Sony/MS audience any more than the Wii U impressed PS3/360 owners, why would they buy a less powerful Nintendo console when they could have a PS5/XB2? 

To compete with Sony/MS realistically Nintendo not only needs an equal (or ideally better) console hardware wise, they need to also completely change their image. They need to market during things like the NBA Finals, NFL games, and TV shows aimed at adults. They need to play down their family IP. They need to spend millions of dollars in new Western studios that can make exclusive games to match Uncharted and God of War and Halo aimed at the older auidence. And they need to be willing to take losses on hardware ... even if they're successful, that will then trigger MS to get desperate and start price cutting, which you then have to match. I don't think people realize "competing head on" with Sony/MS is not as simple as they think it is. 

If you're going to compete with Sony/MS bringing a knife to a gun fight isn't going to do you much good. You need to either bring it all the way or check the f*ck out, cause that competetion is not for the faint of heart.