What's NX for Nintendo?

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Captain_Yuri said:

zorg1000 said:

Captain_Yuri said:

If they made a 3ds with an HDMI out, it would distroy their console division... And they aren't blended... The point of a console is to have the big screen experience with signicantly better graphics and a few other things. A console is supposed to give u games that a handheld isn't capable of like bigger worlds, better Ai, better graphics and etc.. If they use handheld components, there will be no third party support which is followed by bad press which will result in bad sales. Software is the money maker but you lose software when you don't have people buying two MKs or two Smash and etc and outputing them twice a generation leads to fatigue which will result in lower install base

The wii was unique and the reason why it sold so much was because it was designed to entertain the casuals in a new way... Not because of its games... And its obviously not smart since its exactly that which put them in this position

There would be third party support, u seem to be forgetting about the strong Japanese 3rd party support that Nintendo handhelds have in addition to their growing support of indie developers and the kid-friendly western 3rd party support. These things aren't going to go away just because Nintendo unifies their next handheld and console.

They wouldn't necessarily lose money by selling only one Smash Bros or Mario Kart game. For example, let's say Mario Kart 7+8 sell a combined 20 million lifetime (MK7-13m, MK8-7m) and Smash Bros 3DS+Wii U sell a combined 15 million lifetime (3DS-9m, Wii U-6m). Of course there is a large overlap of people who own both, let's just assume 50% of Wii U owners also have a 3DS and that all units sold were at full price.

Mario Kart 7-$40×13,000,000 units=$520,000,000 revenue

Mario Kart 8-$60×7,000,000 units=$420,000,000 revenue

Mario Kart NX-$60×16,500,000 units=$990,000,000 revenue

Smash Bros 3DS-$40×9,000,000 units=$360,000,000 revenue

Smash Bros Wii U-$60×6,000,000 units=$360,000,000 revenue

Smash Bros NX-$60×12,000,000 units=$720,000,000 revenue

See how having a unified platform could be beneficial? Lower development & advertising cost by only having to make a single game, larger audience to sell DLC to, same or greater revenue even when selling less total units, frees up developers to make completely new game 2-3 years later.

Also take into account other games on Wii U that are limited by the consoles install base, Tropical Freeze has sold a little over 1 million, lifetime it might leg it out to 2 million, if that game also had the 3DS install base to sell to than it would likely be a combined 5 million seller.

Yea cause Japanese third party and indie games games totally sells consoles/handhelds/noticable software in the west... *Looks at MH* And by third party, I obviously mean games like Cod and GTA and etc

Also, that argument is so heavly flawed because you are assuming that people would actually pay $60 for games with handheld graphics which they won't because who on earth would pay $60 for the handheld experience when you can pay $60 for a console experience on the ps5/x2 or ps4/x1? And not only that... The overlap is signifiantly higher than 50% because the wiiU only really targets Nintendo fans and nothing else... I am thinking its more like 80-90% overlap...

And thats not really benifical because the customers won't be paying $60 for the handheld experience... Specially if its on TV... The price will be less than that ($40) and not only that, the sales will be a lot less than that

I do agree that some games could sell more if it had the 3ds install base but the install base of a single platfom will be much lower than wiiU+3ds because there is no overlap and the console will be using handheld parts if its anything like ur suggesting which = butching the market place

The unified platform with the same specs and same games on both the handheld and console is the second worst idea I have ever heard

It doesn't have to have the same exact specs. Home NX could be 2-3x the horsepower of the Portable NX, it could even literally be 3 of the same system-on-chips (SOC) placed onto one die for the home version whereas the portable version is just 1 SOC. 

I actually think the next Nintendo handheld will be fairly powerful ... for a handheld. Think Wii U graphics, maybe even slightly better (more modern CPU/GPU architecture, more RAM). Now that they are going iOS/Android, a dedicated Nintendo handheld can't be such a low-tech device, to justify $40 portable games they will have to be much bigger, high end experiences. 

Then the home version can be 2x-3x that ... which begins to approach an XB1 perhaps. 

I don't think Nintendo really cares about competing head on with Sony/MS, I think they believe (and have said so many times) that their role in the industry is to create new ways to play and do something different. So if you're expecting a PS5 killer I think you'll be dissapointed. This is going to be more similar to the Wii IMO.