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fatslob-:O said:
Locknuts said:

But now you can buy a single card that smokes my two old cards for far less money and with 4 x the Vram. For example an R9 290:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r9+290&N=-1&isNodeId=1

With one of those you could definitely build a PC for the prices you mentioned. The 360 could be bought for as little as $299 back in 2007 and would smoke a $1500 PC. It was a true beast. I remeber because I built a PC back in 2007 for that price and my friends 360 absolutely owned it. I subsequently bought a 360 and only used my PC for RTS games until my upgrade in 2011.

The 360 was a real alternative to a gaming PC. These new consoles are very disappointing by comparison.

Umm, AMD won't live very long if they keep cutting their margins like this ... 

And also the 360 would get smoked by the GeForce 8800 Ultra around the same point in time so the 360 was a pretty far away alternative to PC gaming ... 

The new consoles are far from disappointing all things considered. It's because of the PS4 and X1 we were able to usher in the age of physically based shading with games like Killzone: Shadow Fall or Ryse: Son of Rome. These games also make the most graphically advanced games on the PS3 and 360 look like turds in comparsion ... 

8800 Ultra was an $830 card. With inflation that's  probably closer to Titan prices. I'm saying that just over 1 year after launch (same as 360 was in 2007), these consoles are getting not just beaten, but absolutely destroyed by a $270 card. This card can run the same games as the consoles at 1080p/60fps at ultra settings where the consoles are not even managing 1080p/60fps at lower settings:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/27/battlefield-4-performance-analysis/3

Hell, looking at that page, even the aging 7970 (280x these days) is almost averaging 60fps at ultra settings.

If they'd just put $100-$150 more into the hardware and just absorbed it themselves, I'm sure we could have seen some truly impressive machines.