Samus Aran said:
Mummelmann said:
Number one; the 360 and PS3 never had anywhere near the catastrophic numbers the Wii U has shown. And did you miss the part where the PS3 lost a bunch of support due to slow start, being a year after the 360 and being dodgy to program for? This "everyone has it in for Nintendo" conspiracy has gone way too far, others suffer as well when they make mistakes, and they have the same kind of fans who excuse everything they do. Sony lost exclusivity on Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid series; this is easily among the biggest software news in two decades. The main difference between Sony, MS and Nintendo is that the former two seem to learn from their mistakes and they adapt to the market and end user rather than expecting/hoping for the market and end user to adapt to them, and this is a huge part of the current problems we see in the weekly charts.
Number two; what incentive did 3rd parties have to develop for and publish on the Wii U? The Wii crashed completely while the PS3 and 360 kept on going, the combined installed base of the PS3/360 and a decimated Wii concept made it a no-brainer for most and 3rd party games kept on selling well on these platforms, the incredibly clumsy Gamepad didn't do the Wii U any favors either, people who want tablet audiences to give them money would rather opt for developing mobile games.
The Gamepad was a huge mistake from the beginning and I said as much in spring 2012, about six months before the Wii U released. The numbers were seeing is not some grand conspiracy or 3rd parties willing themselves to stay away from Nintendo out of childish spite; it is due to Nintendo being forced early into the 8th gen when the Wii crashed and a succession of really poor choices, and Iwata's continued insistence that "one game can shift the fortunes of the Wii U" shows that they are willing to keep on making bad decisions and you should be a lot more worried about that at the moment, in my humble opinion.
PS: Mirrored posts with "I'm rubber, you're glue" type of rhetoric does not impress me in the slightest.
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Another person that takes that quote out of its context. Next time, read the source material.
The gamepad was not a huge mistake btw. Incredibly clumsy? Maybe the problem isn't the controller, but the person controlling it...
Oh and people predict doom on Nintendo all the time, so that prediction of yours isn't that impressive. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
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A broken clock? I specifically stated that the Gamepad could cause an identity crisis since they were seemingly out to please two markets with a single device and that I believed that this would cause problems for them. So all the things I ever said that came true are irrelevant because someone else has said something similar? I made quite a few predictions and guesses, in the UNITY thread among other places, and many of them turned out correct, I also predicted the massive decline in handheld console sales many years ago. Overall; I have written about how the industry works and how it would turn out for some time and it has been mostly correct.
As for me being incredibly clumsy; this is more or less a direct personal attack and I would like for you to avoid that if you want to have a discussion. It is my opinion that the bulky design, lack of implementation, low resolution and high cost of production paired with it not even being available for purchase for two player over two years after release and the fact that the market has not responded to it at all as the figures show, make this an incredibly clumsy product, not unlike the mandatory Kinect for the Xbox One was.
Speaking about out of context; "Oh and people predict doom on Nintendo all the time, so that prediction of yours isn't that impressive." How is this even remotely relevant in this context? Am I dooming someone? Don't go on and berate me for taking things out of context when you do the very same thing yourself.
