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the_dengle said:
Darwinianevolution said:

The thing is the majority of people know only about one version of Spiderman, the traditional: red, blue and white costume, Peter Parker photographer, a bit geeky, with great power comes gret responsability... It's too ingrained in popular culture to change anything. I was surprised when they used Gwen Stacey over Mary Jane in the rebooted version. But that is just a relatively minor character. If you change the identity of your main hero (maybe for the clone saga one, the ultimate replacement, the Doc Oc fiasco of Superior Spiderman...) you are going to get backlash, even if everything works flawlesly.

They're going to get backlash if they do Peter Parker's origin story for the third time in 15 years, too. They will get backlash no matter what they do.

People know who Spider-Man is. They can recognize the costume even if it doesn't look exactly the way they're used to it. If you put big bold letters spelling SPIDER-MAN on a poster they will not be confused.

If the movie is good I really don't care what they do. But I think that the Amazing movies proved that the red-and-blue Peter Parker story isn't a guarantee of popularity. Meanwhile Marvel is greenlighting movies left and right for characters who aren't well known to the general public in the least bit -- Guardians of the Galaxy, Inhumans, Black Panther, hell even Doctor Strange and Ms Marvel are relatively obscure. Guardians proved that the success of their films is not dependant on what "the majority of people know."

I think people are tired of Peter Parker. I know there are still fans of the Toby Macguire films who turn their noses up at the very suggestion of rebooting the character so soon after shutting those down. There will probably be a similar group of fans of the Andrew Garfield films who won't easily warm up to the idea of him being replaced. Telling both of those fanbases that the movies aren't being replaced or rebooted and introducing the new films almost as a sequel to the basic idea of the older ones is a simple way around that.

It's weird how you know Superior Spider-Man by name but apparently not Miles Morales.

I stopped reading Ultimate Spiderman when Carnage melted and killed Gwen Stacy. The simbionts are very weak (as characters) in the Ultimate universe. But that aside, I think they just wanted an excuse to kill Gwen, when there was no need for it outside the fact that she dies in the regular universe. The real tragedy of Gwen's death wasn't the fact that Peter tried and failed to save her, it's the possibility of he being the cause of death, because of the broken neck. If you have some outside force create some sort of killer goo with no sentient conscience whatsoever, and then that blob killing Peter's love interest because she was at the wrong place and in the wrong time, it has no point besides of replacing her with someone else (I think they did with Kitty Pride, or MJ Wattson, or a clone of Gwen, I don't know, comic books are confusing) and Spiderman feeling bad because "superheroism hurts everyone around me syndrome". I haven't read Superior Spiderman either, mostly because the backlash was so big after the Doc Oc thing, I prefer just reading something else.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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