zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:
Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed are far bigger than things like Dead Island and Dead Space.
Even if all those games were available for the Wii U on day 1, I think you know full well they all would've flopped.
The audience for these games doesn't want a Wii U and Nintendo gave that audience no reason to want one (here's a new Mario game that looks just like the Wii game! And look another mini-game compilation. Our system is fairly similar to the PS3/360 you've already owned for 5-6 years. Please give us $350.).
Third parties don't owe Nintendo anything, and that's not to be mean, but again it's just like the guy who keeps crying about being single. Get over yourself. Girls don't owe it to you to recoginize you're a special snowflake and date you. You need to go out there and win over a girl, not the other way around.
Nintendo fans who complain about this operate under a false pretext where they think third parties owe Nintendo something. They don't. The Wii U had some very big third party IP available from day 1, and it all sold like crap. The third parties that opted to pass were honestly smart to do so.
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Yes Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed are much bigger franchises but that's not the point, the point is that the majority of 3rd parties never had any plans to release games on Wii U and u can't expect 3rd party games to sell well on a console that only gets a fraction of these big releases.
When did I ever say 3rd parties owe Nintendo anything? That has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation, u seem to be trying to add things in that don't belong. My entire point was that the majority of 3rd parties never had any intention of releasing games on Wii U, sales had absolutely nothing to do with this decision since they had no games planned since before the device even launched.
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They had no reason to want to release games on it in the first place. The console was loser proposition and it didn't take a rocket scientist to predict how it would go.
Even if it took off with casuals and sold well under that scenario, in what way does that appeal to the maker of Grand Theft Auto? There's no audience over lap.
PS3/360 owners (the ones who buy all the "core" third party content) weren't going to buy another similar console 5 years too late.
Honestly Nintendo is lucky they got COD and AC (two of three biggest third party IP on the market) and an entirely exclusive Ubi Soft FPS, they probably didn't deserve even that.
Sales and demographics do factor into the equation here. Why should a third party support a platform with 0 userbase versus two others with 80 million users? Aside from a console offering a generational leap and thus ushering in a new generation of consumers (which the Wii U does not), there was no appeal.
