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FarleyMcFirefly said:

It is us, the gamers.

I'm going to post something I said on N4G, hopefully you can check it out, it took me a while, especially considering my poor level of English:

Let's suppose there are 8.3-8.5 million Wii U units in homes all around the world. 

1. There are 2 million Wii U consoles in Japan: How many units did Black Ops II sell on PS3 in Japan? About 600K apparently. You might say that's a lot, and it is, but trying to replicate those numbers on Nintendo's machine it's simply impossible. Try to tell me a non-Nintendo game that has surpassed the 100K barrier in Japan; I'm pretty sure you will come here again with two or three, and all of them will be very Japanese titles. Western titles don't sell on Nintendo's consoles there. So 2 million consoles less. Third party publishers have to be lucky if they want to sell 6.5 million units of their games on Wii U 

2. Not all consoles are active today: Do you think everybody are still playing their Wii U? Nope. I'm not sure why neither Smash or Kart 8 have bigger numbers. I mean, they should have if there are many people still playing the thing. 250-500K consoles less? 

3. Not all parents are interested on Assassin's Creed or ZombiU for their kids: Think about it, do you really think all Wii U owners are "strong Nintendo fans"? I don't think so; indeed, there are many parents that only want to buy these consoles just to keep entertained their children. They know Nintendo produces the machine, so what games do they buy? Nintendo titles starring their popular characters. 

The number of Wii Us under these conditions I think is very high. 3 million, what do you think? I mean, apparently Hyrule Warriors IS THE ONLY third party game that has surpassed the million mark, and it has Zelda themes everywhere. 

4. What do I win if I buy Black Flag on Wii U? Lower frame rates?:https://www.youtube.com/wat... Where's also the incentive for buying this game on Wii U? I see better stuff for it on Xbox Live... Where is Nintendo's strong online infrastructure? I don't see it. So again, why should I buy this game on Wii U? What do Ubisoft and Nintendo offer to me? Nothing in my opinion, but funny enough, I still bought the game on Wii U and I regret it completely. Thank you Mario and Rayman. 2 million consoles less? 

5. Do not generalize, Wii U owners also play on other platforms, belive it or not: I play on PC and Xbox 360, I bought many third party games for Wii U but I stopped with Black Flag because, number 1, there wasn't anything in 2014 aside from Watch Dogs, and number 2, I just did not like Ghosts and Black Flag, those games made me stop from trying to purchase any other third party game for Nintendo's thing. Then one year later you could see me buying AC Rogue for Xbox 360. 1 million less? 

6. Yes, there are people that simply don't want to buy third games on Wii U because of your reasons, author, why not? 1 million less? 

So, in the end, with all things considered, what is the possible number of sales for any third party game on Wii U? 500K? 300K? 200K? Publishers are right about abandoning the console, but they still did their madness with ugly ports, and that's not acceptable either. 

But I blame Nintendo completely.



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first.