Is the Xbox One a failure?

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IFireflyl said:

Juma009 said:
The only thing that defines if it's a success or failure is the existence of profit for MS, too bad such information is not out.

You have the math I did in my previous post. The Xbox One through December 2014 cost Microsoft approximately $55 million. Microsoft has over 46 million Xbox Live Gold members. At $50/year that's approximately $2,300,000,000 they're making every year. The console itself isn't supposed to profit. None of the Xbox or Playstation consoles ever made a profit. So the math is out. The Xbox One is not a failure. It has surpassed the Xbox 360 in sales. It has lost less money than the Xbox 360. They still have billions in revenue coming in from Xbox Live Gold. The Xbox One is, empirically, not a failure.

 

Your "math" is invalid.  In order to calculate the profits/unit for the Xbox One you have to consider the following: 

1.) The "math" does not account for the fact DDR3 continuous price increases since launch.
2.) The "math" does not include shipping
3.) The "math" does not include packaging
4.) The "math" does not include retailer cuts
5.) The "math" does not factor warranty costs
6.) The "math" does not factor returns

 

If you’re going to state things as facts, at least try to be accurate.  If you are talking profit/unit these things must be factored in.  I'm not even taking things like the $100 million dollar NFL deal into consideration.  To help you out we'll consider all those failures as a sunk cost.  Then when you take advertising, marketing, exclusive deals, and more into consideration it becomes apparent that Xbox Division is losing money.