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Samus Aran said:
Soundwave said:


That's fine and all, but that doesn't really have anything to do with Nintendo. I don't think MS really is all that invested in whether or not the XBox brand does great anyway. It's fun little "toy division" distraction for them a nice way to get their brand out there in a different way. 

Which is maybe a good thing because if MS really cared about the game business and winning the "console wars" they'd simply just spend Sony and Nintendo completely out of the market. 

Do you honestly think there aren't a lot of people at MS that had enough of the XBOX brand? Like I said, it's easy  to predict the fate of the XBOX. The only question is when. 

Nintendo has accepted it failed this gen and are now looking to make whatever profit they can. Next generation is a different chance for them to try.

Well I think Nintendo's issue is bigger than just one generation. 

Their issue is they're a company run by old Japanese farts who don't know the first thing about the modern market. As such I think the modern console market at least, which is almost entirely now made up of Western gamers and Western publishers, has simply passed Nintendo by. The generation can change, but if these factors are still the same then I think the result will largely be the same. 

They had a great run though particularily in the 80s/90s but I don't think they can be a force in the mainstream console market again unless they stumble onto a controller/gimmick miracle that can fuel them for another few years (and even then they will probably find a way to mismanage said fad after a few years). 

That said, I don't think Nintendo will ever go anywhere entirely, they can still make enough money to get by. It's just their relevance in the market probably won't ever be what it was in the past. But you can say the same thing about a dozen other giant Japanese companies ... does anyone give a sh*t about say Panasonic as a electronics brand these days? A lot of these once proud, giant Japanese brands are today bordering on irrelevance.