pepharytheworm said:
MDMAlliance said:
pepharytheworm said:
Now how many of you guys walk down the street and have a bunch of people greet you and a lot of times add things like "handsome" "cutie" and "prince"? Now imagine this has been happening to you ever since you were 14. While saying "hello" might not be open harassment, how many of those same guys do it to males too? Part of the reason a lot of women find this is harassment is because it is intimidating. If you are going to be assaulted by a stranger it is overwhelmingly going to be a male. Have any of you locked your car door because a woman walked by? Any lone person on the street would feel intimidated and harassed if what happened in this video was almost a daily occurrence.
I guarantee if one of these people said hello to everyone who crossed their path they would not feel as intimidated. But when someone pinpoints you to say hello too as you are walking down the street in makes it a little creepier.
And seriously anyone who thinks that guy walking beside her not saying anything wasn't being creepy and inappropriate is really just being silly. I would be freaked out if someone was doing that to me. |
#1 Many times strangers do randomly say "hello" to others as they pass them on the street or something. Especially if you live somewhere like in the southern parts of the United States.
#2 You wouldn't know if someone says hello to everyone who crossed their path or not unless you stopped yourself.
#3 It happens all the time where someone happens to be going the same direction as you when you're walking somewhere, especially a crowded area. Saying it's creepy is the silly thing unless you have good evidence to say that they were doing it to follow you. That video barely showed any and let us just believe that he was doing that by saying he was. He could have, but he also probably wasn't either.
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#1 No one said strangers don't say hi to others. I have been greeted myself, most of time because we come in more close proximity. Example: getting into an elevator, opening a door as someone is coming out, making eye contact. More often then not it is a worker and rarely are adjectives attached to such greetings.
#2 You wouldn't literally know they greeted every person who crossed their path but it's not hard to see someone engaing others before you come up to them nor that hard to hear them engaing others after you have passed them.
#3 Maybe but most would think that that amount of closeness to an individual going the same way as you is not very appropriate unless they are oblivious. And since he greeted her first that doesn't sound likely.
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The issue is that the assumption shouldn't be made, and the fact it was called harassment is taking it too far. I'm not arguing that the people aren't doing it, but we're basing it off of assumptions led by the dialogue of the video. I would say that it is likely that most of them, if not all of the strangers, were perhaps motivated by her being female, but calling it harassment is too much and the proof to claim that it was their motivation isn't there.
This is one of the issues I really find strange that people want legislation for, because it's way too abstract and people can too easily be falsely accussed under the right unfortunate circumstances. I think only if there's a reasonable threat of harm or a harm being done should something really be done about it. The mentality isn't something you can change by making videos like these.
