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Psychotic said:

sundin13 said:

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Fine. Since it's off-topic and since you didn't explain why it's good for today's standard and I have no intention of wasting my time explaining why it's bad for today's standard... except... you know... being a story about two horny stupid teenagers wanting to screw each other and their parents are in the way... haven't seen that a million times already... Let's just leave it to everybody's own interpretation.

It is okay to think you "won", if you are so inclined.


You have to be one of the worst debaters I have spoken to. You constantly forget what you are discussing and say "my point is" followed by something that wasn't remotely close to your original point. Then you follow it up with this beauty of a comment, which makes a grand generalization saying that Romeo and Juliet is about two "horny stupid teenagers" (which isn't a bad thing in any way...great books can be written about horny stupid teenagers), and ignore all of the subtleties of "star crossed lovers" plot. You can't make the argument that Romeo and Juliet is cliche when so many works following it are blatant homages, and yet none of them have surpassed their inspiration. If that is the stongest point you have to make, and you just choose to ignore the brilliant wordplay and dialogue and some of the best usage of iambic pentameter in literature, to suit your preconceived notions, then that is your fault alone. Your arguments are as nuanced as a rock and then you follow it all up with the patronizing BS of your last line. You may continue with your lackadaisical debates and continue to make grand generalizations in the way that worst represents the truth, and I will just leave you with the opening lines of Romeo and Juliet (although I'm sure you will brush it off as just the old, dusty words of a man long dead):

"Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;
Whole misadventured piteous overthrows
Do with their death bury their parents' strife."