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o_O.Q said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
o_O.Q said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

How many buisness women are half naked? Now what about strippers?

She doesn't need to hide her body, but dress like a pornstar? That is absurd and even worse that you try to defend it.


so therefore your point is that yes indeed the hiding of women's bodies empowers them 

fair enough that's all i was asking

as i mentioned i suppose this is why muslim women wear burkas

ironically though this has been used in part to claim that muslims abuse women when in actuality according to your reasoning its not abuse its empowerment

also the people that claim to be pushing for the emancipation of women disagree strongly with you

http://feministing.com/2010/08/24/public-shirtlessness-the-next-feminist-frontier/

 

its just funny to me how contradictory views on this get

for feminist half naked women are demeaning then they aren't then they are again

its just interesting to me to see how this developes

So things are black and white for you, you have no middle ground. Sorry, but that isn't life - it just isn't that simple. There is dressing inappropriately by revealing too much, and hiding away. What happened to the normal middle ground?

Those femenists are in denial of basic human biology. The female breast is a sexual organ (among other thigns). It does arouse women, and it will turn a guy on (most animals breasts only develop in mating periods/seasons). A guys breast is not....so there is a difference.

 

The issue is you have a lot of ill-informed people and people such as yourself trying to simplfy complex social concepts into binary.

 

"What happened to the normal middle ground?"

normal middle ground?

what is wrong with the form of dress that muslim women choose? what is wrong with burkas?

you implied that the hiding away of a woman's body empowers her and i'm just saying that maybe that is where the type of dress used by muslim women originated from

 

"The female breast is a sexual organ (among other thigns). It does arouse women, and it will turn a guy on (most animals breasts only develop in mating periods/seasons). A guys breast is not....so there is a difference."

well i'm neither here now there on that to me it depends on who you're talking to

some people find breasts arousing while others don't

 

"The issue is you have a lot of ill-informed people and people such as yourself trying to simplfy complex social concepts into binary."

lol no my comment on burkas was just a response to the implication that a woman's value rises when she hides her body away


I would suggest you get a dictionary and look up the word "extreme". You are swinging from one end to the other and somehow think you can logically argue either point. As I said, you need moderation. Hiding everything is just as bad as letting it all hang out. Both obsess over their body and how much to show. Like I said....what happened to the middle ground. (You don't think this is the first time I've argued this right?)

If you are a hetrosexual man, you will find breasts arrousing unless you have some major underlying issue such as depression....but that doesn't mean they are not arousing, but that you have a disorder preventing yourself from having the normal reaction.