Explain: Sony abandoning the Vita

[Dr.Henry_Killinger]

VanceIX said:

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

VanceIX said:

So why in the world do you feel the need to make a post on a topic that you have almost no clue about? I own TWO Vitas, and the first-party library from Sony is absolutely pathetic.

The only game of import this entire year has been Freedom Wars, which isn't even out yet. Nothing else has been remotely interesting from Sony, other than some half-assed ports like Borderlands 2 that they didn't even develop.

You don't see how Nintendo supported the Wii U more? Well, just look at the sales. Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros Wii U, Bayonetta 2 (codeveloped by Nintendo), and Hyrule Warriors alone this year have been better than anything Sony has offered on the Vita, not to mention Xenoblade X, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Mario Maker, Splatoon, Yoshi's Whooly World, and Zelda U making their way here in 2015. What does Sony have for the Vita? A Gravity Rush sequel that will undoubtedly be a PS4 definitive title?

Get real. Sony has abandoned the Vita, and left all its fans out to burn. It is a sickening thing, and encouraging it by making excuses for Sony just hurts the industry. 

You don't even have a Vita, which is why I'm not sure I can take your argument seriously. How would you feel if The PS4 and Xbox One switched places in sales, but instead of releasing new games like Microsoft is to keep it in contention, Sony just gave up on it and looked to its next big thing? That's what they did with the Vita. A lot of us paid $250+ on the console, plus memory card expenses and PS+, only for Sont to abandon it 2 years in.

It vehemently disgusting.

On the contrary, since I don't have a handheld, personal feelings don't cloud my judgement.

Saying the Vita has no support is an exaggeration, not having a Vita I can cleary see its still getting support.

Whether or not you like the support, and are representative of every Vita fan is irrelevant to me, because that is your subjective opinion.

Furthermore, I'm not looking at this year alone, like you seem to be.  Wii U basically stagnated for a year, getting ports of last gen games that we're basically no different. To me that is clear abandonment. 

Thats why I'm limiting it to the Vita. Show me that Vita software support has declined overall. Because Vita is still getting hardware support, its been remodeled twice, with the Vita TV releasing this month, and the version 3.35 patch its recieving. Sony has mention Vita at every conference they mention PS4, with new games coming out for it.

This narrative of Vita abandonment describes it as Sony pretending it doesn't exist. The main concern I here from people saying the Vita doesn't get support is that they want support that Nintendo gives its platforms. Completely ignoring the facts that Sony's main focus has always been on the home consoles, PS3 was definetly struggling, Sony is Not a Game Developer like Nintendo, and Sony depends on 3rd parties a lot more than Nintendo.

PS Vita's poor sales, especially in America was definetly a result of price, but it also made it a pariah in the eyes of 3rd party like the Wii U. Meanwhile, its a joke to compare the Wii U's support from Nintendo to Sony's of the Vita when they aren't even the same type of company, and Sony is supporting 2 active home consoles as opposed to 1 active handheld that has always dominated the industry and gets 3rd party support by default. 

Well, since my personal opinion is completely irrelevant since I own the console, I guess I have nothing more to add, other than your claim about Sony not being a game dev being mind bogglingly wrong. Sony is as much a game dev as Nintendo, if not more. They have had more new IPs over the last few years, along with tons of great classics. 

If you are saying Sony is in the clear for giving hardware support to a console that needs software support more than anything, fine. That is your subjective opinion as well. Many people don't like just having an indie and cross-play machine, and it shows in sales. Like I said, name me some quality software on the Vita from Sony this year. On the PS4 we got plenty, on the PS3 we got plenty, but on the Vita? Just Freedom Wars. That's my argument for lack of software support.

Now, you'll probably say that Sony lives off of third-party, but past some indie games that are more playable on consoles, there are few of those as well. Sony tries with AC and CoD, but after that nothing. We occasionally get bad ports like Borderlands 2 and some decent ones like Minecraft, but all of those have better homes elsewhere.

But, like you said, my opinion can't count since I'm just another confused Vita owner. Goodbye and good day.

Sony owns studios that develop games, they don't develop them like Nintendo does.

And In the OP I said any support not specifically, software support. So Indie and Cross play isn't support?

In the OP I also specifically stated "I realize the question of whether or not some's opinion on whether or not the Vita has been adequately supported is subjective, but the "Vita gets no support[that I want]" argument isn't really convincing the way its presented on the internets."

But here you are giving me the exact same argument that I said was not convincing enough. I mean hell another Vita owner in this thread, completly disagreed with you. Why should your Opinion hold more weight than Mike_L's? Is it because you have 1 more Vita than him?

 

The Vita's circumstances are unique to itself, just like any other console, so you need to show me declining overall support for the Vita from 2011 till now. The burden of proof is on you and anyone else trying to convince me that this is the case, and from what I've seen its more or less consistent. You can't just make arbitrary qualifiers like "only software support counts", "indies aren't games", "ports aren't games", "cross-play isn't software", etc. to validate your opinion. That's as pointless as claiming that "Only software support counts", "only new IPS count as software support", and "Wii U didn't have any new IPS this year" ergo "Wii U had no support".

Read the OP again

*I never mentioned software alone.

*I flat out said the argument of personally not like the support is not a convincing basis to claim it doesn't exist.