Nintendo's reluctance to build new IP's is killing their brand

[ohmylanta1003]

I can't disagree more. Jizz has nailed it on the head with every post. People didn't buy the Wii because of interesting software. They bought it because it was a fad. The casual argument is not weak. It's straight up true. The Wii was just a perfect storm of great marketing, lucky timing, and appeal to everyone. I'm a diehard Nintendo fan, but I'll be the first to say that the Wii was a fluke. I think what you're trying to say is that if Nintendo tried to reappeal to the casual market then they would become very successful. And I think you're wrong. Nothing like the Wii will ever happen again. The people that bought the Wii now have other forms of casual entertainment. It almost sounds like you want Nintendo to make another Wii...I'd much prefer them to just continue making the great games that they are.

People didn't buy the Wii because of interesting software... but I'll be the first to say that the Wii was a fluke. 

Im sorry, but this makes no sense whatsoever.

First thing you have to consider.  Wii was popular all over the world.

Its appeal was cross cultural, crossed age groups, and other identity groups.

Now, I doubt those millions of people simply passed by a white box and said, that looks great, im going buy it as decoration for my house.

No, they bought the Wii because they wanted to play WiiSports, and only the console allowed for what WiiSports was offering.

Just like many people bought the balanceboard to play WiiFit.

Software always sells hardware... but Hardware can refresh, reinvent and innovate software.

But if there is no software... or not enough good software to make use of the hardware, the hardware itself as a game console is worthless.

Therefore, there is no intrinsic value to buy a console itself except for the games it can play.

 

At this moment, people who can afford to buy consoles, are not buying the WiiU because it is well known

it will not get certain very popular games from some of the biggest game publishers in the world.  

How do people know this?  Because those third parties have said so.

It has nothing to do with the console itself.

You want to play Madden?  Dont get a WiiU

You want to play Destiny?  Dont get a WiiU

You want to play CoD?  Dont get a WiiU.

etc.

You want to play Bayonetta 2? Get a WiiU !

Is Bayonetta as an IP as big as a CoD or a Madden?  No. 

I completely understand what you're saying. However, it's only proving my point. The Wii was popular with everyone. And do you know what something is called if it is popular with everyone (a lot of people) for a short period of time? A fad. The Wii was a fad. You cannot argue this. You cannot.

"they bought the Wii because they wanted to play WiiSports"

Sort of. They bought the Wii because they wanted to play WiiSports...with motion controls. The only reason people wanted to play WiiSports is because it had motion controls. I completely agree that software USUALLY sells hardware. But in the Wii's case, a lot of the hardware was sold because of the appeal of the hardware, not the actual game the hardware was used for. And your argument is going to be "but you can't use the hardware if you don't have any software, now can you ya big hairy ape fucker?" And my response to that is that is an extremely limited and immature way of looking at it (and please don't ever call me an ape fucker ever again. So childish). Obviously you can't use the hardware without the software. However, that doesn't mean that the hardware wasn't the DRIVING FACTOR in you buying the console. How you should look at it is: what was the biggest factor that made you buy a Wii? Was it the 5 sport minigame collection that came bundled with the system or was it the fact that you got to use motion controls to play that game? I think all the casuals (who are the majority of people who bought the Wii) would say the latter. They didn't buy it for WiiSports. They bought it for motion controls. And motion controls were THE fad of last generation. Why do you think Sony and Microsoft tried their own variation of motion controls? Because they wanted to capitalize on that market before it disappeared.

I love Nintendo. I loved the Wii. And I will buy fucking everything that Nintendo pushes out until the day that Nintendo dies (I'm immortal, so I can't die before them). But let's not get carried away. The Wii was a fluke and nothing of that magnitude will ever happen again. They got lucky, let's move on.