Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
oniyide said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
There are two problems with your assertion. First, we will never be able to truly measure the effect that the 3DS version has on the Wii U version because there are way too many variables, and we have no control case. Second, I know for a fact that the 3DS version must have a detrimental effect on the Wii U version, simply by existing.
Clearly, the 3DS version was planned during a time where Nintendo was more worried about the 3DS then the Wii U, and with good reason. Problem is they didn't realize what made the Wii succesful and have so far failed to replicate it.
So while it is false to say that Smash 4 won't help the Wii U, we can also say with certainty that it cannot help the Wii U as much as it could if it didn't have to deal with the 3DS version. Even though there is no way to isolate the Smash boost from the Holiday boost.
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Ive seen this theory alot but let me try to come with another. 3ds is a detriment? i would say it doesnt effect it that much. Why? There is NO gaurantee that if the 3ds version didnt exist that those people who are buying the portable one would buy a Wii U for Smash. If you didnt care to buy a WIi U for Smash then it doesnt matter if there is another version out there or not. I think some of you guys were giving too much stock to that series. Lets not let Brawl numbers fool you, it wasnt going to do anyhwere near those numbers. Matter of fact i would argue that since 3ds is a system people are actually buying anyway(moreso than WiiU) then Ninty could sell a game to an bigger base of people who most likely werent going to get the WIi U anyway. Hell if theny really like it they might be inticed to buy a Wii U and Smash. if not Ninty sold a game they woulnd have anyway.
Yes we could argue that Smash being on 3ds hurts WIi U cause people will just settle. We could argue against it too. But from a software standpoint this is smart move, no way one can say taht Smash WIi U exclusive would sell better than Smash 3ds/WIiU combined.
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The degree with which the 3DS version harms the Wii U version is only speculation, and cannot be known cause we don't have a case where it doesn't exist to compare it to.
Furthermore, I have already stated that this benefits the games software totals as opposed to benefiting the Wii U. But this is thread is about the game helping sell the Wii U, not selling copies on its own. And the answer is, not as much as it couldv'e if it had no 3DS version.
The very existence of a 3DS version means that the system selling ability of this game is being spread across 2 platforms. It means that at least one person will have the 3DS version and not buy the Wii U version, for whatever reason, and that costs the Wii U a sale.
Cleary, Nintendo is still more worried about the 3DS then the Wii U, seeing as how the 3DS version conflicts with the Software sells Hardware mentality of Nintendo when considering how they are treating the Wii U.
Not to mention, they can't afford to be spreading exclusives when their year lead's been evaporated and their 3rd party support is barren.
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but thats the thing. Maybe Ninty has giving up on that whole software sells hardware metality when it comes to WiiU. Maybe theyve accepted the fact that the WIi U is going to do GC numbers or worse and thats where the treatment of the system is stemmng from.
If you have a 3ds AND a Wii U then why would one buy the 3ds version ONLY? that really makes no sense and thats kind of the rub. Truth is you dont really have any gaurentee that that person who bought Smash for 3ds would have bought an entirely new system for another Smash game. If one was that big of a fan in the first place they would have already bought a Wii U in anticipation or will buy one when that version comes out regardless if there is a 3ds version, especially if the 3ds version is worse. And if you were never that big a fan in the first place then you wasnt buying a Wii U for that game anyway.