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Rath said:
fagarcia75 said:
Rath said:
Sqrl said:
This is so disturbing.

I really don't get the mindset that you can change your gender, sounds pretty delusional to me.


Or it could be a recognized medical condition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder

 

To them its not changing their gender from one to the other, its changing their body to match their gender.


No, it's called refusing to accept that which you are! It's no different than nose jobs, changing hair color, boob jobs, and on and on. People don't accpet themselves for who they are which is tragic, and seek change that in the case of this transgender pervert is very distrubing.

I don't care if one day some scientist comes out and declares this to be "medical"; I will not believe the hype! Science has been wrong in the past, that's is why it is called science, and if they declare this to be a medical thing, then they are very surely going to miss the mark. This is nothing short of absolute perversion.

If you are born a man and struggle with feelings towards men, accept the fact that you are a man, you have a penis, and deal with it.

If you are born a woman and struggle with feelings towards women, accept the fact that you are a woman, you have a vigina and deal with it.

I have several friends who went deep into the homosexual movement, and both confess to the fact that regardless of how much our sick society tries to tell us that this is normal in some way they knew it to be wrong. That was their big difficulty, they were told it was O.K. persued it but still felt all the guilt, shame, hate of self, thoughts of suicide and so forth. They ended up coming out of the homosexual movement, and both are speakers at conferences and anywhere else they can share trying to give people the truth and help concerning this matter.

Homosexuality is not normal, people.

Exits thread; flame me all you want this had to be said.


You're an idiot. Really.

You state a fact - science has been wrong it the past. From this fact you somehow come to the conclusion that because science has been wrong it the past you can disregard it. Thats not science, in science you only disregard things if you have proof of something contradictory.

Then you somehow change the topic from transgender disorders to homosexuality, they are entirely seperate and different things. Then on the topic of homosexuality you ignore scientific evidence because of anecdotal evidence of 'several friends', you know my uncle is gay and he and his husband are happily married, both have good employement as anglican vicars and they don't have any of the problems which you seem to associate with 'the homosexual movement'.

I'm 99% sure that you find the idea of homosexuality morally wrong due to religion. Just like every other damned person who thinks homosexuality is 'abnormal'

 

Now if you would like to find some scientific studies, not funded by christian groups, that prove any of my statements wrong. Then we can debate.


 My god ... and you call others an idiot . Clearly you have no idea of how deep an ancient reliogion can be , and all you know is that religious people tend to think that homosexuality is bad , just because a pope or God told them ... thats just so wrong . I had the chance to learn dogmathics for 2 years , and actually , afther those 300+ classes that Ive had attended their explanation of why homosexuality is bad is much better than waht you have copy/pasted here from wikipedia or who knows what site and actually realies entirely on scientific studies . If you have no clue what religion is , than dont mock others just because they bealive in something , even if your parents where irresponsible enough to try and give you at least some religious education .

 

Could I write it down to you , the answer , why religious people think that homosexuality is bad  ? No , not even If I would continue my studies for 5 more years . But in the same time Im not the best example for a religious person .... Still I used to laugh at their arguments back then , but yours seems so childish compared to those ...

  



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