Does MS really deserve praise for "listening" to consumers ??

[Dr.Henry_Killinger]

Dark_Feanor said:

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Puppyroach said:

How could they not know it wouldn't be a problem? They knew the cost of developing Bluray (which they are a cofounder of) so ofcourse they knew the system would be insanely expensive, they just hoped PS2 fans would swallow it anyway. Otherwise they would've gone a cheaper route if their focus was consumers.

So Apple knew that the first iphone would be a problem despite it costing more then normal cellphones at the time?

These companies take risks all the time, its impossible to know whether or not it would pay off. Furthemore, a lot of the reason PS2 sold well at all was because of its extra utlility as a DVD player. PS1 was an MP3 player. Why would PS3 not follow the trend because it was expensive. They didn't know price would be that much of an issue until after the PS3 launch. Its not like the PS2 was the cheapest console at the time, that was Gamecube. And just as easily as you try to peg an expensive blu-ray player as anticonsumer. I can easily mention how you forgot to include the 200$ loss they took on by giving the PS3 extra utility like its predecessors. Hell, MS was trying to push a format as well. Its not called format wars for nothing.

Apple sells more than 100mi iPhones per year... PS2 took 5 years to reach that mark, and the PS3 will never suprass 90mi.

http://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-3rd-quarter-2007/

It doesn´t matter how much you spin, the PS3 was a failure that harbinger all the problems Sony is facing right now.

Reading comprehension. Key word is first. And if you were paying attention, nobody was trying to spin that the PS3 was good. Puppy claimed that Sony could have known that blu-ray would cost the PS3 sales, before hand, I said that was impossible.

Its almost as if you didn't read my comment at all and are just flaming me because I was talking about the PS3.

Also, case in point.