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Vena said:
Teeqoz said:

You don't think Nintendo games would sell better if they were multiplat? okay.

Just because SEGA didn't handle the first to third party conversion well doesn't mean that the same would happen with Nintendo. They should get dev-kits for the other consoles a long time before hand, just to get to know the different consoles. Pokemon would still sell boatloads, Mario would still do great, Metroid Prime would sell super great, because the FPS genre has much more fans on PS and XBOX consoles, and their smaller franchises would get a good boost from having the much larger installbase. And then there is the extra $ they would get from exclusive advertising deals and similar stuff. Imagine how much Sony or MS would pay to get exclusive advertising rights to Mario.

They could still sell Nintendo accesories like Pro-controllers and NFC readers for both XBO and PS4.


Bolded: Try reading again. They will sell better, will they sell enough. That is the most important question and one that none of us have any real answer to, and as history shows no matter how much you may like to downplay it, first-to-third has never ended well.

SEGA back in the day had incredibly strong franchises, franchises that were competing with Nintendo. Then the Dreamcast happened, then going software only happened. When was the last time you played a good Sonic game? Or any SEGA mainline IP? Was it years ago? I bet you it was years ago. They are a struggling company and their IP worth tanked. Tanked to the point that Nintendo actually does their franchise better than they have in near a decade.

You really overvalue Metroid Prime just because its an FPS, the game is hardly even a shooter and what made it so good had little to do with "Shoot X SpaceRussians". And the "good boost" is likely no where near actually enough of a boost of any kind. If Metroid Prime was that big of a draw, people would have spent the little bit extra on the 99$ NGC to play it. Or the other small franchises or even Mario. They really didn't.

Exactly how many third parties do you know of that sell accessories that aren't just glorified reskins of the "only controller allowed". You do know Sony does not even allow non-dual shock controllers right? You say these things "oh they can sell X, they can sell Y" as if there is any sort of precedent for it. There isn't.


If we use your numbers, where nintendo makes 80-100% profit on their games now, whilw when third party they would only make ~60% the they would have to sell 1,6 times better to make profit there. which means they'll have to sell 60% more software to make up the lost profit. I'm confident that they could do that.

Then there is the fact that they wouldn't have any of the losses from their hardware segment, so that none of their software profit would be used to offset hardware losses.

Metroid Prime would do waaaay better on PS3/4 and Xbox 360/One. FPS wasn't as big during the 6th gen as it is now, so during the NGC era it didn't matter as much as it would now. And you just proved our point in your post, despite many being interested in Nintendo games, they're not interested enough to buy Nintendo hardware, but if it was third party then a lot more people would buy their games.

Does it matter if the Pro-controller has the same innards as the DS4? I mean, it still feels exactly the same right? And for the NFC thing, there is precedent, it's called Skylanders and Disney infinity, which both are accecories that come from third parties.

SEGAs downfall wasn't purely because of them going third party, but also because of their horrible financial situation. The Saturn wasn't as succesful as a lot of people seem to think, and besides the Saturn all their other systems were basically failures that cost them quite a bit of money. If Nintendo goes third-party BEFORE their broke, then they can still fund the development of great titles.

FYI SEGA had higher profits than Nintendo last year