| MTZehvor said: I couldn't begin to tell you what laws govern whatever plane of existence God exists on. I obviously haven't been there myself, and even if I could somehow escape this universe, I'm not sure I could even truly comprehend it. My argument is simply that the "where did God come from" is moot because any God that would be in a position to create the universe would not be bound by the universe's laws. Sort of like how a developer of a video game is not bound to the same commands for run, jump, dodge, etc. that he programs into his video game. And I have no idea where the conscience question is coming from, but again, I don't know. For the sake of discussion, though, I suppose what makes it "special" is that, unlike most instincts/feelings which we could quite easily tie down to simply helping us survive (fear, sexual attraction, desire for possessions, etc.), a conscience seems to tell us to act in ways which would be quite against our best survival interests, such as altruism or putting ourselves in danger to save another person. |
so then we might agree that using God as an explanation is more wishful thinking than something we actually think exist? I could claim that invisible, fuzzy bears are the force behind the concept of love, bit can we agree that it is more probable that another explanation is behind the concept of love? What I am getting at is that people should keep god out of these discussions and only use god as part of your faith, nothing else.
and regarding consciousness, what you are describing is a behavior that is part of us as animals. We have just decided to call a very basic behavior as consciousness because, once again, it fits our world view. We can compare with some kinds of birds, that actually lies down and dies when their partner passes away. We also see animals that are depressed or are cannibals. Those are not logical behavior but it part of the animal kingdom, just as we are.
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