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curl-6 said:

Games take more than 3 months to go from idea to released copy in this day and age, even remasters. That's not speculation, that's common knowledge. So Sony held off on telling people it was coming to PS4 to sell more PS3 copies and get more double dips.

All you do is dance around the question. IF ITS COMMON SENSE, THEN EXPLAIN IT, IT SHOULD BE EASY TO EXPLAIN. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF, YOUR EVIDENCE, YOUR EXPERIENCE?

You say its common sense. And I say its not, where is your proof to back it up. Until you give me that, you can't even begin to argue your point.

And demand the same of all the big 3. If Nintendo announced tomorrow they were making their online service a paid one, I would criticise them and label it an anti-consumer move.

First of all there is no such thing as a free service, you are just paying for it in a different way, Second of all PS+ was never free, at all, ever, so saying it was made a paid service is a blatant flat out lie.

I don't know how else to tell you that you're just wrong.

"Common Sense" is not a substitute for evidence, you have no evidence, so you have no back up for your claim. I can say TLOU:RE took 2 weeks to make and you can throw out common sense all you want, but it won't prove anything because I can say common sense too and you can't even show how common sense doesn't say I'm right.

The only reason you're calling PS+ being a paid service, Anti-Consumer is because of Sony. You completely ignore, Hulu Plus, Xbox Live, Gamefly, Cable Programming, Subscription MMOs, Syndicated Network Online services, really any kind of service in existence. You all pay for it, to say PS+ is anticonsumer because you pay for it is just the ramblings of someone who doesn't know how the world works and is just trying to find a legitimate reason to voice their irrational dislike of a company's product. 

If you hate Sony and believe they're are anticonsumer, that's fine I won't try to convince you otherwise because irrationality is irrational, but don't try to pretend that any of your "reasoning" makes any kind of logical or even common sense.