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tbone51 on 22 August 2014
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Seece said:
tbone51 said:
Soundwave said:


Except Nintendo has shown no inclination of dropping the GamePad whereas MS did eventually acknowledge Kinect being mandatory was a mistake. 

Also $499.99 is a much more prohibitive price point than $299/$349 is. No console has ever sold well in gaming history at that price point. 


And^ Im just pointing out that it would of been in a much better position. Its not Nintendo's fault that MS thought Bundling Kinect 100% was a good idea (and visa versa with the gamepad).

You gave a scenario and i gave a scenario as well. Both of which are "IF" This happened which it didn't unfortunately. I agree though that those prices are very high and obviously affected X1 overall, but personally to me it didn't look like it made all the difference in a way MS wanted it too.

I think what Soundwave is saying is that MS shot themselves in the foot for no reason, as it was mere months before the price was cut. With WiiU it's all very well saying "If it was $199" but it isn't two years on.

I mean, even if WiiU launched at $199 sales wouldn't be drastically different, it's not the price that is the issue, people just don't want it. If XB1 didn't have the issues it had (which they've now cleared up) from the start, it would be an incredibly different landscape.

But this really is a pointless convo because things are as they stand

(By that I mean XB1 primed and ready to overtake WiiU :P)


Oh well :0 Opinions are opinions. Though i cant but say i agree with the thread op :-/ (unfortunately!!!!!)