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flagstaad said: I think you are making the wrong points because you are focusing just in the job of the publishers and not in the customers also... 1: The publishers did not dug that hole alone, the customers help them, and they will not get out of it if we don't help them also. 2: It cannot be filled by the publishers alone, the few times they had put equal effort they had been rewarded with lackluster sales and all the publishers will not put the same amount of effort without some glimmer of hope or an extended hand from the customers, they are not the enemy. They will not lose money to try to create some mystical environment if they don't see signs that we want that environment You keep focusing in a long term that may never come if we don't help to fix the problems in the present, and I am not putting all the blame on the customers just in the few cases when we have dropped the ball precisely when they reached out to us with a good game and we just "do not care" because some imaginary and usually stupid reason. It is a complex issue but if we don't work together with them, the ones who will suffer the most is not going to be them who are actually making more money on the other consoles, is the customer who will have to spend more money and get more consoles to play a good variety of games, and also the platform holder that will lose the licensing fees and as Nintendo fans we should be at least concern about it. I think Watch_dogs is a perfect oportunity to prove that we want those games, the title may have some flaws and it is arriving late, does it means that is a bad game? does it means that the developer or publishers did not made an effort to finish a game that by all current numbers should be just cancelled? No, they are making an effort and that should be appreciated, so next time when they are thinking about porting another game they feel motivated to create a Wii U version too, and hopefully they would even considering putting additional efforts if they see that it could result in more sales. |
1. The bias was built by publishers and no one but the publishers can fix that. Consumers are (more often then not), mindless drones who are told what to buy by marketing and public perception. Publishers have done a terrible job of convincing Nintendo fans to buy their games. The customer is right in this instance and the publishers are the ones who need to change to fix this.
2. Thats the point...they've only done it right a few times. They need to change public perception which will not happen overnight, and it certainly wont happen if they throw us a bone once in a blue moon between giving us the finger. Ubi gave us the finger with Rayman and Watch_dogs, Namco gave us the finger with Project Cars, Activision gave us the finger with CoD, all the companies who cancelled DLC gave us the finger. Yeah, something good comes around once in a while, but public perception needs to be changed. Once again, its about long term betterment of the industry (not sure why you call this "mystical") and if a company only looks at the short term, it will drive itself into the ground and it is the reason we are in this predicament to begin with.
If more/better games on released on Nintendo consoles from third parties, they will AT WORST take a minimal loss and at best help create another market where these games can thrive. Obviously I'm looking at the scenario where all publishers suddenly decide to do what is best for themselves and the industry, which is a very unrealistic goal, but I have not hidden the fact that I am looking at the future from an idealistic perspective (what should happen vs what will/could happen).
About Watch_dogs: Games don't sell on quality alone. It takes word of mouth, hype and marketing and a number of other factors. By launching late, WD has removed all of its hype, ran its word of mouth dry and stopped its marketing. It is a dry game release. That will never sell, under any environment. Blame consumers all you want, but as I said, they need to be told what to buy. Is it their fault that they aren't too bright? Totally, but that is a fixed state and it is neither something that will change, nor something that can change. That is why I don't think the blame is on them and I don't think that they will be the catalyst of change. Publishers can change...its up to them where they go from here (although we all know where they will go).
Once again, I am talking about what should happen, not what will or could happen...
