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Intrinsic on 12 August 2014
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DJEVOLVE said:
eFKac said:
jlmurph2 said:
eFKac said:
Pretty much none effect. Still gonna get obliterated by the competition.


Doesn't mean the consoles won't sell.


What does it even mean? You think without those bundles the console wouldn't sell?

Xbone has a weak showing this year and beyond, a digital game bundled won't change that. It won't do anything in Europe, MS can as well stop trying, don't think we'll see much in NA, but it's their best chance for not being embarrased by competition's numbers, and I guess there is still hope for Japan and of course China, the new saviour.


Sony should have done that with the PS3 with your logic. Ruling out this early is........................................

I don't agree that MS should just stop trying, I actually wish they tried as hard as they could cause that would keep sony on their toes.

But I think there are some simple facts that people ignore. I will just list tehm out for ppl to agree with or dispute. These "facts" could be regarded as heavily opinionated but I am going off history here.

  1. Globally, which is a bigger/more successful brand? Playstation or Xbox? I would say Playstation.
  2. Sony's problems with teh PS3 were mostly self imposed, if they had launched at $399 that generation would have been a completely different story. Its like people frget that they laucnhed at $600 when the cheapest 360 one could buy cost $300. 
  3. If doing everything right, like sony has done... what chance exactly does MS have? lets face it, both sony and MS have games. Some will prefer the games form one company more than the other, and i can understand fanboys in either camp making it seem like the other guy doesn't have games cause you know... thats what being a fanboy mostly does, makes you blind to everything else. 
  4. Sony has seen off every major player in the industry, they did it to nintendo first, then completely decimated sega (though in truth sega was already on a downward spiral) and they kept the original xbox at bay, clawed their way back with the PS3...etc yet people talk like sony is new in all this.
  5. The xbox brand  was ever really strong in just one territory. NA. They did very well last gen, but this gen its been a bloodbath. Too early to call it, but do people really think Halo is going to somehow make the XB1 better or more succesful than the PS4?
I am just curious, looking at both brands and their history, really looking at what went wrong and right with each console.... by what metric do people stil believe that the XB1 is going to somehow pull a PS3 this gen. The xbox brand doesn't even have those kinda legs. I mean its obviosu that this gen the XB1 is not ever gonna outsell the PS4 2:1 in NA. But even if it somehow manage 20% beter sales that the PS4 in NA every month for the rest of the gen (which i dont see happenning) and it keeps losing as heavily as it is everywhere else... what good will that really do for it. Personally, I think the race is nolonger between the PS4 and XB1. Its now between the XB1 and the WiiU for who comes second. Thats not a bad thing if whoever comes second can at least manage 50M in sales by the end of the generation.