MTZehvor said:
Trentonater said:
MTZehvor said:
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Longer Answer: No; large characters almost never end up top tier in any fighting game ever. The tournament isn't high level play for one, people are unfamiliar with the tweaks made to the cast and don't know the ins and outs of this particular version of Smash yet for two, and the game itself isn't released yet in the first place, meaning that there could very well be plenty of buffs and nerfs to come. It's also worth noting that Bowser is still very, very slow; he's faster than Brawl, but his moves still look horribly unsafe. Players will figure out how to punish unsafe moves.
I think a more apt comparison to a character from past games is Ike. Bowser may very well be the Ike of Smash 4: Everyone thinks he's broken during the first month or so of playing the game, then you figure out how to get around his moves and punish his attempts to get in, and he drops to low tier pretty quickly. |
You should play more fighting games. Sagat and Balrog dominated Street Fighter 2 and continued to dominate many of the early versions of Street Fighter 4. Then there was of course the infamous Rufus. Astaroth, Nightmare, and Darth Vader have all been very strong in various Soul Calibur games. True Ogre was the best character in Tekken 3 and was top tier in Tekken Tag Tournament 1. Ganryu was top tier in tekken 5 DR and the undisputed best character in tekken 6 was Bob. Taka-Arashi in Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown is so heavy you can't even juggle him. He is widely considered one of the best characters in the game.
Plus bowser has a divekick. Divekick=instant top tier.
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To be fair, size is much less of a factor in games like Soul Calibur and Tekken than it is for something like SF or Marvel, where there is much less of a concern of your opponent getting behind you.
I can't vouch for SF 2, but Sagat and Balrog are mid tier at best in SF4. Fei Long, Akuma, and Cammy are arguably the top tier, and you'll note that none of these are large characters, all with good speed. This is back from the original SF4 as well, before it got released every other year with a new adjective appended to the front.
Can't vouch for Virtua Fighter either, but just by looking up the only tier list compiled by a professional for the game, the character you mentioned is only 14th out of what I believe was 19 characters. Can't say that strikes me as "widely considered" being one of the best characters in the game.
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Here are the rankings for older versions of Street Fighter 4. http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2012/mar/29/tier-rankings-super-street-fighter-4-and-older-versions/ The rankings you mentioned were from Arcade Edition 2012.
Virtua Fighter 5 FS gets its tier list from Arcadia magazine. this http://virtuafighter.com/threads/arcadia-magazines-latest-tier-list.15737/ is the latest version. There is also a list from american players http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Virtua_Fighter_5:_Final_Showdown#Tier-list.
Generally slowness even in a 2d fighting game isn't a problem as long as they have good reach, damage, and fancy tools. Everyone remembers Sentinel in Marvel vs Capcom 2 and the original marvel 3. Not to mention one of the characters currently dominating BlazBlue Chronophantasma is Azrael.
