Is PS4 going the wrong direction?

[Dr.Henry_Killinger]

DarkD said:

This is why I didn't bother answering your post before...  I made theories, theories aren't provable......  How hard is that to understand....  The supports to my theories were already given.....  If you don't like them then go somewhere else....  You haven't disproven anything, you seem more like you're lost in the argument.  More reason why I didn't wanna respond because you just don't seem to understand my points.

They aren't theories. Theories require sound reasoning which your conclusions lack. 

Killinger said "Atari made too much supply and there was not enough demand so they lost money. When Demand outstrips supply, money is also lost because sales are lost."

Yes supply outstripping demand is bad and demand outstripping supply is also bad, but equilibrium is a pipe dream.  Anyways the original point was that Sony's sales are low.  Ferrari said that vgchartz numbers are way off so arguing this point is pointless.  

You are changing goalposts. You said that being sold out was a good thing, proven by history. I proved that being sold out was just as bad as having to much supply. VGChartz numbers have nothing to do with the basic concept of supply and demand.

Killinger said "From what evidence? Please present so I can know how and what you drew your conclusions from, its unsubstantated because your evidence is missing."

This is where I start to doubt your english because are you saying that people had a good impression of the Wii?  You know the console that brought us Wii Fit?

Nonsequitor. Asking for evidence is competely unrelated to claiming that the impression of the Wii was positive, which I never said. Furthermore, according to this site Wii Sports was the most "sold" game of all time brought to you by the Wii.

Killinger said: "Except on the graph I posted, the Wii U's launch was the highest's its sales have been overall."

yes a consoles launch will usually have a lot of sales....  That's not news that's stating the obvious....

Exactly, so you admit you were wrong in saying that the Wiii U was gaining traction because of the PS4 and XB1, It did better when it was by itself then when it faced competiton baring MK8 which improved the performance of system some what.

Killinger said: "Every PlayStation console has had a significant catalogue of games numbering in the thousands."

With rising game development costs, you need more developers for the same amount of games.  Other platforms have been actively stealing development teams for their own.  David Jaffe is working on free to play browser games for example.  His old team EatSleepPlay is working on iPhone games.  Irrational games fired all but 10 people to turn themselves into an indie studio.  THQ went bankrupt.  

You have no idea how game development works do you. One of the major reasons for increasing development cost is because more developers are being hired, why do think so many firing are happening.

This means that not only have developers been dispursed across a dozen development platforms, but the expense of making triple A games has risen as well as various other things.  It's not a hard conclusion to make that game releases will suffer for the home console as a result.  

Your former argument doesn't support this one, developers moving around in the transitary period between generations is not uncommon.

Killinger said: "First of all this is true across the entire industry, not to mention that PlayStation has a number of 1st part development studios and sufficient third party support, if anything of all the eight gen consoles, the PS4 is poised to have the widest catalogue as the Wii U's third party support is MIA and the XB1's lack of international appeal means that its going to miss out on games that aren't western centric/developed at best their will be parity on mutliplat support. There is no reason this would only occur to the PS4."

No its not true across the entire industry.  Indie games for example can be 2D and sell for a good amount of money.  Minecraft sells for 20 dollars was it?  I think I paid 30 for Prison Architect.  That game is entirely in 2D, with graphics rivaling that of the late 90s.  How much do you think angry birds cost to develop?  There are many smartphone games where they just have still images which the player clicks on to progress the story.  

Another Nonsequitor, do you not realized that every triple A is affected by increased dev costs, that while indies aren't affect in budget, they are affected in competition? Just look at the amount of indies at the start of seventh gen compared to its end/

Yes the PS4 will have the widest catalogue in the console industry, but here's another conclusion for you.  Because the PS4 has such a sloppy lead, Microsoft and Nintendo are able to actively leech third parties off of Sony turning what should be an all out victory into a three man race.  

You are just making things up as you go along. The fact that its leading globally at all against the Wii U is crazy, and its lead is near global, the only place where the PS4 is losing right now is Japan against the Wii U. Seeing as the Wii lost to 360 in America I guess the Wii was sloppy too>

As for the Japanese games....  I have my doubts they will even pick up the consoles.  I have my doubts that Sony will continue to fund games for them if they don't buy the console leaving us with an even shallower array of titles.  

Except PS3...

Killinger said: "This makes zero sense, Mobile and PC games are on platforms that hardly compete with solely the PS4, indies are a type of game that the ironically the PS4 was notable for having, web games are just browser based PC games."

I'd say that smartphones are competing pretty well with the PS4 over in Japan.  I personally hardly touch my consoles anymore because I play indie games on Steam mostly.  

Yes, because you are representative of the entire nation of Japan, and some odd 300,000 or so Japanese who've bought a PS4 are just foreigners or some crap like that.

A theory is a a well-substantiated explanation, by your very own admission of lacking sufficient evidence to substatiate your claims you've already invalidated the notion that your wild ramblings are theories.

Furthemore, an explanation consists of evidence, reasoning, and conclusions. The evidence you do utilize is faulty and misappropriated at best and flat out wrong at worse. Your reasoning isn't rational, its clearly directed by your biases, and formulated to fit your opinions. So its not surpised that the conslusions you come up with make no sense, are riddled with inconsitencies, and are downright imaginary.

Your literally making it up as you go along, saying whatever you think is necessary attack PS and somewhat even Xbox, although its quite transparent that you are just mentioning it to keep up some facade of fake impartiality.

And I knew this would happen from the start which is why I said this from the very beginning:

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Oh and btw, a little advice, you should stop while your behind, your story is falling apart at the seams.

These aren't conclusions, these aren't theories, they are simply opinions, and your free to have them, but dare not try and claim that their is any rationale or evidence that elevates your opinions as the former.

Call it an opinion, and I am fine with it, call it a theory and I will rip it into pieces, just because something cannot be proven (theory), doesn't mean it cannot be disproven. And if it can be disproven its not a theory, its just wrong.