Smear-Gel said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
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Last year it sold around 1.5 million in the holiday, with ONLY Mario 3D World (an unfamiliar isometric 3d mario game), during the launch of two consoles, and a much, much more negative public perception than it has now, much less this Christmas. A Christmas that has Amiibo and Smash Bros, and will also have MK8 and Mario 3D World and whatever else they wanna sell that has already been released.
At this very moment, it has 6.7 million sold. Adding 1.5 million to that (a holiday with much, much worse conditions than the upcoming one) leaves the Wii U at 8.2 million. Even leaving the opinion that it's going to have a 5 year lifecycle and be replaced in 2016, Thinking it cant sell less than 2 million between early 2015 and mid/end 2016 (which also gives it another holiday season) is literally insane.
And that's ignoring the sales it will have between now and the 2014 holidays. These are the least optimal conditions and it would still happen.
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What baffles me about you people are that you somehow ignore competition in all of this. Competition is becoming stronger against the WiiU at the same rate the WiiU is getting games. As more next gen games come out, it will seperate the WiiU from the other 2 even more, and the image of the WiiU will continue to fall. Also why would it sell another 1.5m over the holidays? With the other consoles having more games and price drops, more and more people will be lured into buying the Xbone and PS4.
Also a 5 year life cycle would be a hilariously bad idea for the WiiU. When shops stop stocking a product, it should be canned.
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All the consoles will become more competitve over time. I havent forgotten them at all. If by price drops you mean Black Friday and holiday deals, then that will also happen to the Wii U too, still making it the cheapest 8th gen console. And you're right that games not being on other consoles separate them more and more eventually, but that's also inevitable. I understand the lack of 3rd part games on other consoles coming to Wii U is a problem for many, but I just think you might be overestimating how badly it will affect the Wii U, honestly. Or underestimating the games on the console. One of the two.
Plus, the Wii U makes a great compliment to another console/PC, so that might actually help it snag some extra sales by people who still got the PS4/Xbox One.
I still cant imagine it selling under 1.5 million this holiday at all, really. Or the console having a life less than 5 years.
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Why will they become more competitive? You are assuming all have an equal distribution of good game libraries that grow....which may not be true, especially when 2 have less power - the wiiU having the least (and very little in modern terms).
The WiiU adds nothing to the market, hence the poor sales. Anything else does the same or better multiplayer. All it consist of is Nintendo games. This alone will shift a few million units as Nintendo fans want to play sequels no matter what. However, does the WiiU attract new customers? From what I have seen, it does not. This is why I doubt it will sell 1.5m again this holiday. People have other options, the WiiU is now stocked is less places, and I beleive that most people who want a WiiU already own it.
zorg1000 said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
Smear-Gel said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
Smear-Gel said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
It will struggle to hit 10 million. I doubt it will even reach 12m before a replacement is brought out (if Nintendo continue with large hardware).
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You are insane. Literally clinically insane. Or a big Nintendo fan who's trolling hard. It's funny though.
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Or I possess the magically ability to do maths. Seriously, work it out. At the current rate (assume an average with small bumps of popular game releases), how long will it take to hit 10 million units sold?
I'm not joking - do the maths and then reply.
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Last year it sold around 1.5 million in the holiday, with ONLY Mario 3D World (an unfamiliar isometric 3d mario game), during the launch of two consoles, and a much, much more negative public perception than it has now, much less this Christmas. A Christmas that has Amiibo and Smash Bros, and will also have MK8 and Mario 3D World and whatever else they wanna sell that has already been released.
At this very moment, it has 6.7 million sold. Adding 1.5 million to that (a holiday with much, much worse conditions than the upcoming one) leaves the Wii U at 8.2 million. Even leaving the opinion that it's going to have a 5 year lifecycle and be replaced in 2016, Thinking it cant sell less than 2 million between early 2015 and mid/end 2016 (which also gives it another holiday season) is literally insane.
And that's ignoring the sales it will have between now and the 2014 holidays. These are the least optimal conditions and it would still happen.
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What baffles me about you people are that you somehow ignore competition in all of this. Competition is becoming stronger against the WiiU at the same rate the WiiU is getting games. As more next gen games come out, it will seperate the WiiU from the other 2 even more, and the image of the WiiU will continue to fall. Also why would it sell another 1.5m over the holidays? With the other consoles having more games and price drops, more and more people will be lured into buying the Xbone and PS4.
Also a 5 year life cycle would be a hilariously bad idea for the WiiU. When shops stop stocking a product, it should be canned.
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Increased competition does not necessarily mean sales will drop.
Gamecube and Xbox released at the end of 2001 giving PS2 added competition, despite that PS2 sales increased and peaked in 2002.
PSP released worldwide in 2005 giving DS strong competition, despite that sales increased for the next 3 years.
PS3 & Wii released in 2006 giving the 360 strong competition, despite that its sales increased in the following years.
So it doesnt really make sense to say Wii U sales cant increase because PS4 & Xone released last christmas.
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The PS2 did well because the xbox was a new brand and people were dubious and the ps2 had the biggest game library by far (multiplatform didn't really exist back then). The gamecube came out too late and people were already hooked on their PS2 and titles such as GTA:VC and SotC etc. Sure, the PS4 is no way near this, but it has a big lead in power which will enable it to have better games, ones the wiiU simply can not match, the xbone and ps4 are easier to dev for and have more support etc. The 360 sold well because it was far cheaper and had good launch titles. The WiiU has now been out for almost 2 years and still has a limited game line up etc. To put it bluntly, the wiiU has no advantage, and the other 2 consoles have no major flaws....so I can't see why the current trend would change.
