PlayStation created the Industry, Xbox changed the playing field

[Dr.Henry_Killinger]

JWeinCom said:

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Super_Boom said:

daredevil.shark said:

99% nintendo IPs are like that. Plus nintendo bullied third party developers a lot during NES era with total control over cartridge. Playstation saved them.

That numbers seems legit. Not exaggerated or anything.

OT: It seems like others have already responded to this better than I could...though I do find it amusing this is listed in the Sony Discussion section...especially given how the OP closes, and what most of the responses in this thread are likely going to be discussing.

This actually belongs in the Nintendo section.

Responders and ravers can rant all they want, they can attack my argument on the grounds of its formation or structure or whatever. But they can't address the heart of the issue. Nintendo can't compete directly against Sony and Microsoft any longer because its PS's Market (The homeconsole market anyway).

And all 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th gen back me up.

Nope. They don't.

Sony did dominate the 5th and 6th gen.  I'm going to ignore the 7th, cause I don't feel like arguing about it, and the 8th because the Gen is like 8 months old (since Sony's arrival in it at least).

Actually, scratch that, I'll play along and pretend Nintendo didn't compete in the 7th gen as though selling more gaming consoles in the games industry is somehow something less than direct competition.  I'll even pretend Sony winning the 8th generation is a foregone conclusion.

The problem is those are effects.  You are arguing that you have thought of the cause. 

Basically, it's the classic "this stone keeps tigers away argument".  That's from a Simpsons episode.  In the episode Lisa (mockingly) tells Homer a rock will keep tigers away.  When Homer points out how dumb that is, Lisa points out that there are no tigers around. Of course, there are no tigers, but that doesn't mean that Lisa's proposed cause has anything to do with that.

So, we can all agree (well, I don't but let's pretend) that Nintendo didn't compete in the 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th generation.  That doesn't mean that your explanation for why that is the case is right. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Z0H8CHPIU

Can't take the effect, and make it the cause.

These assumptions of yours are really getting out of hand.

5th,6th and 8th currently, with regards to home consoles, Nintendo has not only lost/is losing majority marketshare to PlayStation, its also last overall. These are generations when they are directly competing against PS and later XB for the traditional gaming audience. 7th gen is the exception, the Wii targets the more mainstream casual audience.

At the very least, reproducing the success of the Wii with the methodology of the 64 and GC makes no sense. And has been shown thus far not to work. Sure, the gen is early, but to get overtaken in less then half the time of the system's lead is indicative of a problem.

As for Mobile, this affected the Wii U's casual appeal.

As for Handheld, that strategy will not help the Wii U.