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Scisca said:
ohmylanta1003 said:
Scisca said:

No, it's not how it works. The console still costs $330. Just a tad less than a PS4. You are using the RRP of the extras, which don't express the real value of these products. WiiMote? Cool, but I already have more of those than I'll ever need. Wii Wheel? Have one, don't need any tbh. The only thing that really has true value here is MK8 (if it's a retail copy included here, cause I don't care for download codes). So no, it's not $160 for the console. I'm gonna repeat it. People don't want more value. People want a smaller price.

Moreover, this bundle isn't available in Europe


I can't even comprehend how ridiculous you are being. Okay. Let's say that no one needs a WiiMote (which is most likely not true) and that no one needs a Wii Wheel (probably very true). So just forget that those are even included (which is stupid, but whatever). The bundle still comes with a must have game that costs $60 and a free game that costs $60 if you choose Pikmin 3 or a little less than $60 if you choose a different game. Now, let's assume that because most people (unlike you, who, for probably the sake of your argument, decides that the code is worthless) like free shit that's really, really easy to acquire (just type in the code to your Club Nintendo account, literally the easiest thing ever), we can still subtract the 2 game prices from the $330 dollars to get a Wii U price of $210 dollars. Pretty cheap, eh? And of course I'm using the RRP of the extras. Why the hell would I not? That literally makes no sense at all. If someone were to buy a Wii U and then buy 2 first party Nintendo games for their console (which will most likely happen, because people buy Nintendo hardware for Nintendo games), it would cost them...drumroll please......$420! But with this bundle it only costs $330 and you get a FREE Wii Wheel and WiiMote that you can throw in the trash, use, or sell. The bundle saves you a whole $90 and I didn't even include the extra $10 dollars of sales tax you're saving! Literally the whole point of any bundle is to effectively reduce the price of the console, which this bundle does quite nicely.

And the fact that it isn't available in Europe (which isn't entirely true, as we all know it is available in some countries in Europe, Poland not being one of them I guess) doesn't really have anything to do with our argument.


I'm not being ridiculous, it's just the way this world works. So the console is $210 in this bundle (if you assume the eshop game is worth $60, which is a blasphemy for me, I would never pay $60 for a PSN game, let alone a eshop game tied to a stupid piece of plastic and not my account). Cool. Now ask yourself what would make a bigger impact on the market and sell more consoles - such a bundle or the console for $210? Or even $230? Thought so. Which is exactly my point. This console still costs you $330. It's a good offer, but it's still $330. People look and see $330 and think they can get a PS4 for just $70 more. If the console was $230, that would be $170 more - not comparable anymore. This is how people think, this is the reality and you can't fight that.

And you are wrong, this bundle isn't available anywhere in Europe. The European one just has Mario Kart and the downloadable game in it. No WiiMote, and no Wii Wheel.

Clearly I'm not going to sway you. I still believe you're thinking is incorrect and your response to my previous post didn't really counteract any of the points I made. People look at bundles and generally say, "Wow, that bundle effectively reduces the price of the console to _____ dollars". If you're stupid, maybe you wouldn't say that, but someone with half a brain thinks the way that I just stated.

And why the hell do you care if the bundle doesn't come with a WiiMote/Wii Wheel? I thought they were worthless? Using something that's worthless to you as part of your argument? I think we're done here. Boom. *drops the mic*



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.