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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Areym said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Areym said:
I don't think it should, even with my strong indifference to all things religions. A lot of good comes from it. Charity work, support groups, strong community relations. It can often be over shadowed by all the hate scandals and child molestation. If only those religions practiced all the good they preach and stop using their archaic fantasy book to oppress other groups (gays, for example)

Still, a connection with god should be a 1 on 1 kind of deal. You don't need a giant mass to feel close to a divinity. Spirituality, i think, is usually a single player kind of game.

Yah, but 99% of those egretions come from people commiting crimes and hiding behind religion. For instance, child molestation or really molestation of any kind is a Sin in the Bible, if a priest is abusing that power then its because he himself is doing bad, if the leader of the church protects him then it makes the religion look bad but again it is just an abuse of power, same thing when a president pardons someone.

Freedom of belief and all that Jazz, basic human rights or whatever

I don't know how anyone can claim that christiians persecute homosexuals for being gay and yet persecute christians for beliving in a religion. Seems kind of hypocritical, and bigotted if you ask me, something that is apparently unique to religion rather than human nature.

Don't shoot the messenger.

GunsReligions don't kill people, people kill people.

Well, the main and I mean main reason people are oppose to gay relationship is because of religious believes. Those christians vote against it and it doesn't pass or older folks in high power, with some rather old beliefs decide for all of us. If it is voted by the people to be against gay marriage, etc then it's fair. Democracy is democracy, but they do not care  about the actual love of that a gay couple has and the significance that marriage can have on a relationship.

Nobody is persecution christians for believing what they do (except for atheist) My only gripe with them is using religion and the bible to justify their own homophobic and scornful thoughts/actions. Granted, you can be opposed to gay rights but not coming from a place of hate. And for the record, its not just christians. Many religions oppose gay marriage so I'm not trying to pick on them.

You want to generalize every religion to christianity, and assume that tolerance isn't a part of them. Stop being ignorant. The Bible says love your neighboor, just because it tells christians to not be homosexual does not mean it tells people to oppose others beleifs and values.

Christinaity is only a type of Religion, not all Religions are Christinanity. For instance, Buddhist don't oppose relationships yet Buddism is a religion.

I can say the main people that joined the Nazi party were germans, doesn't mean all germans are Nazi.

Well, im pretty sure the bible opposess gay relationships. Again, people can do that if they want. My problem is when they use it as the only excuse. Fuck, the bible says not to eat shellfish, but we still do it but when it comes to gay marriage/relations, " oh its an act against god, its a travesty." People are not oppossing it for their own opinions, just because some guy in a robe told them its wrong. Besides, why even oppose? It affects no one but gays themselves. "We have to talk to our children and educate them on sexual orientation? Well fuck that."

I just said, it was not just christinaity. Many other religions oppose it because "the word of god" tell them to. Other ones are more open because it is not their place to judge others. There are many others religions that have no opposition to it. "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (leviticus 20:13)

That is pretty fucking direct. If you are gay, you deserve death. That goes against loving your neighbor and there are a lot of different occassions where people are stone to death. Does that sound like the word of god to you or just some irrational, fear morgering dipshit?

Again, this is a large part of the christian given the fact that gay marriage is still illegal in most of the US and the world. They do not want to stone gay people or kill them of course but they are still oppose to the idea just because.



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