| Aielyn said: Run away? Not at all. And you might want to look up the definition of "ad hominem", it doesn't mean what you think it means. Disregarding my argument because you believe me to be full of it is the very definition of an ad hominem fallacy. An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.[2] Fallacious Ad hominem reasoning is normally categorized as an informal fallacy,[3][4][5] more precisely as a genetic fallacy,[6] a subcategory of fallacies of irrelevance.[7] Ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious, for example, when it relates to the credibility of statements of fact. Smash sold 12 million copies on the Wii. It sold 7 million on the Gamecube. If you suppose that just a quarter of the fans of the gamecube version have not bought a Wii U and are interested in Smash Bros U, that's almost 2 million units it'll sell. It sold that much lifetime. 12 million on a system with 100million units ltd is absolutely terrible. The 3DS is going to hijack a lot of smash sales, and the marketshare is even smaller than the game cube. You should adjust accordingly. And that's assuming that not a single other person amongst the 5 million or more that bought Brawl are interested in the new game. Calling it "niche" and "party" in an effort to denigrate it demonstrates that your arguments do not hold water. Calling it niche is simply describing what it is. The mainstream appeal of Smash is limited in that it is a fighting game. ALL fighting games are niche without exception. Meanwhile, you seem to think that games sell systems in isolation. They don't. It's a cumulative thing. If you have 100 games that are all very niche, it's possible for their combined effect to be bigger than the effect of one big game. But I like how you dismiss Wii Sports Club as non-mainstream. Why wouldn't the PS4 indies have the same effect then. You seem to be under the impression that Niche = Bad or something. It merely means it does not have significant mainstream appeal.. In other news, you claim that Wii Sports Club is "full price". It's $40 in the US, $55 in Australia. Also see Wii Sports Resort. I particularly like the part where you compare it to Kinect Sports Rivals, though. And now Animal Crossing also isn't mainstream, despite even the worst-seller being 3 million (and that was the feature-lite original game) and the best seller being one of the games that drove the DS through the roof? You keep telling me that these games are Mainstream, but you have yet to explain why they appeal to the mainstream audience and how these games will move Wii Us. Oh, and you do realise that the "push by Nintendo" was a concept, right? As in, a speculation? You also clearly didn't actually read my original post properly. So you admit to baseless speculation. You say I am out of touch with reality and yet you think its reasonable to speculate that Nintendo will magically have a push at the end of the year. Ok. Like I said, not worth arguing with you. Your arguments are just plain absurd, based in a very warped sense of reality in which CoD is "mainstream" but Smash Bros is "niche" and Wii Sports also isn't mainstream. So COD is not mainstream? Smash Bros appeal's to a Niche audience a lot more focused then that of Mario Kart. Wii Sports piggybacked off of the casual sucess of the Wii, you're just grasping here. |
Just because of Mario Kart, you think all of a sudden Nintendo's games are going to start selling gangbusters?
Smash 4 might outsell Mario Kart 8 lifetime, because of better legs but there is no way its happening this year, Mario Kart has more mainstream appeal then Smash, a meme from MK8 was featured on the news for christ sake, not to mention the 3DS version will definetly take away Wii U sales.
Everything else, will probably fail to outsell 3DWorld let alone Pikmin 3.
In the first 6 months of this year, the Wii U sold 1million give or take, you expect a sustained 700% increase because of Bayonetta, Wii Sports Club, X, and Some secret games? You expect the Wii U to sell more in the next 7 months with competition then the 12 months it was alone on the market + the 5 months up until now? And I have a warped sense of reality?
This is isn't optimism, this is even well thought out. Its as if you decided on the number 7.3 million beforehand, and just filled in the blanks with games and numbers. Hell, you couldn't even completely fill it up so you start adding vague things such as suprise titles, holidays, my god from December alone you gleaned 2.9 million sales from "Holidays + a Big push by Nintendo". You realize that this "Holidays + A Big push by Nintendo alone" would doubletriple the amount of Wii U's sold this previous 6 months and sell a third half of the Wii U's life time total? This period would sell 46 times more than Mario Kart, despite the fact that "Holiday + Big Push by Nintendo" is not a game?
Then when questioned on exactly these vague things are you, defend them by calling them speculation? Your not even basing your speculation on anything observable.
Do you see why your plausible estimation is nonsensical?
In fact, I realize now that I have been addressing this issue incorrectly, instead debating against the games you beleive will have titanfall-esque second coming of jesus type effects when really, I just need to highlight the HUGE FUCKING HOLES in your argument.
The Majority of your estimation is the Wii U selling off of Disney Magic alone, you have Wii Sports Club outselling Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, X, Animal Crossing, and WatchDogs. WIi Sports club selling close to that of Mario Kart 8. Then you have Sonic Boom selling at or lower than Smash 4 but Outselling, Wii Sports Club and Mario Kart?
Do you actually understand what crap you are spewing?
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